Lagoon 77

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by tms

This landed in my email today, maybe a bit much?

Where's the crew quarters?
Where's the crew?
Who was lookout while they were making out underway?
Where do you store the plane when underway?
Why aren't the corners of the foldout deck rounded?

[yeloya]

Even if I had 10 mio USD to be spent on a boat, this would never be my pick. I want to be the captain of my boat and be able to single handle her. You would need min. 3 people to run this boat.
I can understand people asking for this time of boat, the thing that I don't understand why a sail boat ? This is a 57 tons of light displacement boat (loaded for cruising 63-65 tons..) with a 335 sqm of sails..
You would need min 20-25 kts of true wind to make this monster move and I'd doubted that the owner would even consider going out in this kind of weather..As a matter of fact, 2.800 liters of fuel tanks are foreseen as a standard.


Cheers


Yeloya

[Polux]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

i cant even start imagining what reaction will this video provoke in monohull devoteees community.

Why always imagining that there will be a reaction, positive or negative? Sailboats are sailboats and that one is a nice one even if i have some difficulty in understanding why a family, like the one pictured on the video, needs all that space, even if money is not clearly the problem.

We all know that multihulls, for the same quality and length are considerably more expensive than monohulls and offer considerable more space.

If someone was all the money he needs and prefers luxury monohulls, there are plenty of them with 100ft and more, beautiful boats also. In fact there is a much bigger offer in what regards that due to a bigger demand, meaning that the ones that want and can afford that kind of boats prefer monohulls to multihulls.

Tomorrow may be the opposite but why always make this opposition between different types of sailboats?

Look for instance to this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4w502p4Njw

and it goes so much better upwind and in light wind

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by JJ77

Icon A5?

well looks like it anyways.

Thanks! I was hoping it was an ultralight, but now I see the passenger seats in the photos of the icon. Thanks again!

[Bleemus]

Nice styling. Should do well on the Med charter scene.

[Polux]

Yes, it can take a lot of guests. Certainly much better than a Goleta, the typical big med charter boat (cabins).

Regarding cats and style I like a lot more this one (make a post about it on my blog):

One of the characteristics of truly well designed boats is that they don't look big due to being very well proportioned. Looking at this picture who would say that is a 68ft cat?

[JJ77]

@Pollux;this one looks way better and is cheaper too,not extremly light either.
JFA built 85 ft





or this one,OQS 60,a bit expensive though..but we are not being rational anyways in this thread..



Merry xmas everyone!

[Polux]

Who can be rational about beauty. Beauty is for feeling not to thought about it

I like more the last one, even if I like more the French gunboat, but while beautiful yachts are being posted on the thread who cares about being rational? or them being monohull or multihull? they are all sailboats!

By the way that Gunboat and the Lagoon are designed by the same team: VPLP

But keeping a good spirit is another thing.

Merry Christmas to you and all.

[itnem80]

Originally Posted by brownoarsman

Thanks! I was hoping it was an ultralight, but now I see the passenger seats in the photos of the icon. Thanks again!

That's a Seamax, not an Icon. The seamax is a 2 seater ultralight (LSA in the US)

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by itnem80

That's a Seamax, not an Icon. The seamax is a 2 seater ultralight (LSA in the US)

Thanks for the further clarification! I've just started looking at recreational flight as a hobby, so still not sure if I'll go for the sport pilot credential or just go straight ultralight (no passengers, very limited aircraft types). But beautiful planes like that feed the dream!

[sheldon957]

Originally Posted by brownoarsman

Thanks for the further clarification! I've just started looking at recreational flight as a hobby, so still not sure if I'll go for the sport pilot credential or just go straight ultralight (no passengers, very limited aircraft types). But beautiful planes like that feed the dream!

Brownoarsman, Go ahead and get your private pilot license over a sport. Not very much time or money over a sport and you can do so much more.

Just this weekend, My wife and I flew from West Palm Beach over to Tampa where my son and his family are stationed in the Air Force to deliver Christmas presents. By car this is a minimum 3.5 hour drive, and usually closer to 4.

We were there in 50 minutes in a turbo 182. Spent the day, flew back home. In a light sport the flight would have taken 1.5 hours at least, but you can't fly at night, IFR or with more than 1 passenger. I was able to take my 5 year old grandson up on his first flight (sitting in his dad's lap) Couldn't do that with a light sport.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by itnem80

That's a Seamax, not an Icon. The seamax is a 2 seater ultralight (LSA in the US)

All I know was I cringed when I saw the nose wheel down.
There are very, very few sport pilots, reason is it makes no sense. Stupid rating as is LSA. I knew LSA was a joke when they didn't let C-152's in, a better trainer has never been built.

[brownoarsman]

Thanks for the further thoughts, Sheldon and a64! I'm mostly interested in doing some slow and low flying around the Chesapeake (outside of the DC exclusion zone), at least for right now, which seems like the purpose for ultralights and sport piloting. But I understand planes are somewhat like boats; get one, and right away you want something bigger and faster!
I was actually originally trading the sailing in for a small powerboat, but then these airboats/floatplanes caught my eye and I thought I'd be able to satisfy my desire to see more of the Bay, faster, for about the same cost as buying and operating a runabout (obviously that price means the seamax and icon are out, but seareys are in, and there is a searey rental place close by).
Chesapeake sport pilots are doing an open seminar/sales pitch in early January, so planning on getting my feet wetter​ then!
Thanks again for your advice, and I'll let you know how it goes. Even if I don't do the full private pilot rating right away, I understand the sport pilot can be a stepping stone up to the real thing. I may get there, though if I knew I was going to pay out of pocket for it, I would have given more thought to joining the service ...!

[DaveWalters]

Originally Posted by ranchero76

That sounds not very optimistic.
And he's correct, you can buy 3 year old Lagoon 620 with mind blowing features and updates for $0.9-1M, which sounds absolutely crazy. Has anyone seen one of these? Are they THAT bad? I mean - I don't mind it to be a project, the only question is - how big is that project?

A friend of an acquaintance's brother has one,and he's not happy at all.
Lots of ongoing electrical issues,leaks,things falling off,and he said it was too flexible-which would explain the problems.
Whether or not this is the exception,or the rule-don't know but it's enough to keep us away.

[ranchero76]

Originally Posted by DaveWalters

A friend of an acquaintance's brother has one,and he's not happy at all.
Lots of ongoing electrical issues,leaks,things falling off,and he said it was too flexible-which would explain the problems.
Whether or not this is the exception,or the rule-don't know but it's enough to keep us away.

That's sad. Electrical stuff can be sorted out, but if it's not rigid enough and/or has leak related problems, not good at all. Still, I'll try to do more research on this - how serious are the problems and can they be sorted out at all.
BTW, most 620s have galley down, along with some other nice features.