Opinions: Seawind 1160 Lite?

[avid]

I realize this may be a bit premature as the Seawind 1160 Lite won't even be seen publicly until July 31st at the Sydney Boat. There is some information available.

Seawind 1160 Lite Catamaran | Boat for Sale - West Coast Multihulls

Seawind 1160 LITE ! - YouTube

They are offering an introductory price of $310K and they will be using two 20 hp yamaha inboards for propulsion. Like the entire range of Seawind cats they are being built in Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam.

Buy, Sell or Hold?

[44'cruisingcat]

If I was looking at buying a production boat, this is one I'd seriously look into. It should be a boat that actually sails.

[avid]

I want a boat that actually sails otherwise I would buy a trawler.

The three in the running are FP Mahe, Maine Cat 30/38 or possibly a Seawind 1K XL or the new 1160 light. Monohull possibilities are a Shannon Shoal Sailer or a Seaward 32rk. Looking for a South Florida/ Bahamas cruiser.

[Rohan]

VERY interesting, thank you for this information! I might move the Seawind to my short list.

It's great that it's lighter - on the other hand, losing so much of the wood paneling would make me feel like I'm in a "plastic boat". I would be tempted to paint a lot of that white interior.

Interesting that the quoted price on the page is US $359K, while the two used 1160 for sale at that site are listed at $389K and $440K!!! Pretty darned high considering they are 2005 & 2009 boats!

The Seawind Lite might finally drive down the insanely high prices for used Seawinds, and they actually might sell as a result. If nothing else, that would be a good thing.

[avid]

Originally Posted by Rohan

Interesting that the quoted price on the page is US $359K, while the two used 1160 for sale at that site are listed at $389K and $440K!!! Pretty darned high considering they are 2005 & 2009 boats!

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Actually, if you look here. You will see the "Introductory price" of $310K US listed.

With 115 Seawind 1160's built since 2004, this proven design has now gone through another stage in development to create a cruising catamaran that that is lighter, cheaper and has a more contemporary interior. Never before has there been a 38ft production cruising catamaran for such an amazing introductory price of US$310,000 (excluding taxes, shipping and commissioning).

[BigBeakie]

Certainly will have a look at the Sydney boat show in a couple of weeks.

Hope this is a trend and they do something similar with the 1250. Now THAT would be interesting!

[Rohan]

Originally Posted by avid

Actually, if you look here. You will see the "Introductory price" of $310K US listed.

With taxes, shipping, and comissioning added, the total cost could be substantially higher. Still, its a hell of a good price, and just helps further emphasize how insane it is for someone to ask for over $100k more for a 5 year-old model!

BTW, IIRC, on the Lite model, it looks like they removed one of the heads for more storage space. I hope that is only optional. Some of us greatly prefer the redundancy of having a second head.

[Sondor]

Originally Posted by avid

They are offering an introductory price of $310K and they will be using two 20 hp yamaha inboards for propulsion.

Just to clarify, it looks like the price delivered ready-to-go at the US west coast is $358k, and the yamaha motors are OUTboards.

[avid]

Originally Posted by Sondor

Just to clarify, it looks like the price delivered ready-to-go at the US west coast is $358k, and the yamaha motors are OUTboards.

Thanks for the correction! I wondered overnight if I had mistakenly typed inboard. I didn't understand why West Coast Multihulls had the price at $358k. I guess it could say delivered to San Diego, CA price for clarification.

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by Rohan

With taxes, shipping, and comissioning added, the total cost could be substantially higher. Still, its a hell of a good price, and just helps further emphasize how insane it is for someone to ask for over $100k more for a 5 year-old model!

BTW, IIRC, on the Lite model, it looks like they removed one of the heads for more storage space. I hope that is only optional. Some of us greatly prefer the redundancy of having a second head.

The Lite has a lot of "luxury" items removed compared to the normal 1160. That's why it's light. And also why it's much cheaper than a normal 1160.

[BigBeakie]

Factor, do you know of any plans in the future to do anything similar with the 1250?

Just hoping

[Factor]

Depends what you mean by "Plans". All the boats are benefiting from a diet in the build process, the XL2 is a good 600 kg lighter than the last one that was built in Australia. And the 1250 is gaining benefit from that as well. Otherwise, no nothing on the table. I keep leaning on them to build a 14.4 metre boat. They aren't listening just yet but I live in hope?

[Factor]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

The Lite has a lot of "luxury" items removed compared to the normal 1160. That's why it's light. And also why it's much cheaper than a normal 1160.

Quoted for truth. The Lite was driven by the factory, the agents (like me) but mainly our previous owners. Many a 1000 owner loved the bigger berths and trifold door etc, but didn't want the extra toilets, the inconvenience of diesels etc. Most of the ideas came out of 10 years of owners comments.

[FirePig]

I've just ordered one to be delivered next year. If you add all the bits and pieces you need to make it halfway sailable/livable you'll add another 40,0 K to 100,0 K (according to their "extra/options" list).
Cheers!

[ozsailer]

Hello all,
I have been a fan of the Seawinds for some time and the new 1160 lite appears to be a step in the right direction particularly here in Australia regarding the price. I believe that the new quoted price delivered is going to bring Seawind a lot more new owners and I can see a lot of these people stepping up from their current Seawind 1000 to one of these models. Personally the galley down is not a winner for me and I would love to see a galley up version. If that were the case I could see the wife leaning heavily towards the new model.


Greg and Sue
SV Sunshine