Outremer 49

[Sail power sail]

Looking at an outremer 49. Thoughts? Cautions?

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[admiralslater]

is it the one in Grenada

[tuskie]

They definitely look smick. They promise good performance, if and only if, they are kept light.

Check out their specifications. Light ship is 9,980 kg and maximum displacement 12,600 kg. That's only a measly 2,620 kg. of load capacity. That includes fuel, water, people and a whole bunch of extras. Fine for weekends and gentlemen's racing, but not enough for most cruising folk. Unless you're into dehydrated food, sawn off toothbrushes and permanently living like a hiker.

Many of the O49s for sale will already be over weight. I'm sure you'll agree, is not a good idea, for many reasons.

[Andrew Grace]

Originally Posted by tuskie

They definitely look smick. They promise good performance, if and only if, they are kept light.

Check out their specifications. Light ship is 9,980 kg and maximum displacement 12,600 kg. That's only a measly 2,620 kg. of load capacity. That includes fuel, water, people and a whole bunch of extras. Fine for weekends and gentlemen's racing, but not enough for most cruising folk. Unless you're into dehydrated food, sawn off toothbrushes and permanently living like a hiker.

Many of the O49s for sale will already be over weight. I'm sure you'll agree, is not a good idea, for many reasons.

I think the above assessment is a bit harsh, not everybody wants to cram their entire 5 bedroom villa contents into their boat,

[Sail power sail]

Yea payload is a concern

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[Sail power sail]

Admiralslater. No. In the states

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[tp12]

I would check with Outremer themselves on what they include/define as light ship. Often people think it includes nothing but, as I've come to understand, most designers include various things and it's best to ask them and work out what is left for what you want.

If payload is a concern I would get a spreadsheet going and list all the things you would like to carry on board, their weights and total it. Don't guess, know.

[Training Wheels]

Originally Posted by tuskie

They definitely look smick. They promise good performance, if and only if, they are kept light.

Check out their specifications. Light ship is 9,980 kg and maximum displacement 12,600 kg. That's only a measly 2,620 kg. of load capacity. That includes fuel, water, people and a whole bunch of extras. Fine for weekends and gentlemen's racing, but not enough for most cruising folk. Unless you're into dehydrated food, sawn off toothbrushes and permanently living like a hiker.

Many of the O49s for sale will already be over weight. I'm sure you'll agree, is not a good idea, for many reasons.

Wow, spoken by somebody who I bet owns a Lagoon! 😎


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[Sail power sail]

I've been to the factory and have worked through the weight spreadsheets. There is enough payload for us, but you have to be mindful of weight of course

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[Sail power sail]

I can't afford the 51 new. Am focused on used 49s.

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[Stumble]

If the payload works for you then about the only problem is pretty much everything else is going to feel slow by comparison.

[tuskie]

Originally Posted by Sail power sail

I've been to the factory and have worked through the weight spreadsheets. There is enough payload for us, but you have to be mindful of weight of course

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That's great. You have obviouly looked closly at this aspect and if the payload suits then you will be sailing fast in a fine vessel.

[tuskie]

Originally Posted by Training Wheels

Wow, spoken by somebody who I bet owns a Lagoon! ��


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Does my choice of boat really matter? We are discussing the Outremer 49. Can you give me an example of any other 50 foot class of catamaran that purports to be a "cruiser" which has as low a payload?

[tp12]

The Schionning's. But again, what is included in lightship, and therefore what the payload can be used for, is very different.

[tuskie]

Originally Posted by tp12

The Schionning's. But again, what is included in lightship, and therefore what the payload can be used for, is very different.

Even the Schionning G- force 1500c has a 2.6 ton payload, and it's a bit more towards the racy end of the catamaran spectrum.

As you say, I wonder what equipment, fittings, batteries, fluids, are included in the Outremer "lightship" specs ?