Pricing makes no sense sometimes

[fillintheblank]

Originally Posted by captnknopf

A big advantage of the Leopard that was not mentioned is it is the only one with inboard diesels, not sail drive. Also it has a real shower room in addition to the two heads.

I am not sure how I feel about sail drives. The good old fashioned shaft with a stuffing box is easy to work on, and less parts to fail. It is not something I would not buy, but could be a deciding factor between factors between two other wise equal boats.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by fillintheblank

I am not sure how I feel about sail drives. The good old fashioned shaft with a stuffing box is easy to work on, and less parts to fail. It is not something I would not buy, but could be a deciding factor between factors between two other wise equal boats.

I was like you , but having owned one Yes I have a diaphragm replacement every 7 years

After that the give little issue. They are smooth and vibration free

They are now the default on most new boats it seems

[MIRELOS]

I have inboard diesels and shower on my FP, no sail drives

[redneckrob]

Originally Posted by captnknopf

A big advantage of the Leopard that was not mentioned is it is the only one with inboard diesels, not sail drive. Also it has a real shower room in addition to the two heads.

I think you must be thinking about the old Leopard 38 and the OP is talking about the new one (he said it was 2 years newer than the Mahe making it 2009 at the oldest). It has sail drives and the shower is in the head much like the Mahe with no separate shower room.

[fillintheblank]

I do like the older leopard 38, but i am strange i like galley down on under 40 foot and some over 40 foot.

[smj]

Originally Posted by fillintheblank

I do like the older leopard 38, but i am strange i like galley down on under 40 foot and some over 40 foot.

Not strange at all

[Tin Tin]

To me one of the big price drivers is having engines separated from the cabin, so there is no diesel or hot oil smells that permeate the cabin that will make those sensitive to such smells at sea throw up. Diving under the bunk to check the oil is a pain too.

[redneckrob]

Originally Posted by Tin Tin

To me one of the big price drivers is having engines separated from the cabin, so there is no diesel or hot oil smells that permeate the cabin that will make those sensitive to such smells at sea throw up. Diving under the bunk to check the oil is a pain too.

But again, none of the boats the OP listed have engines under the bunks (or galley down for that matter) so that's irrelevant to this discussion.

[Sam G]

I don't think there is much difference between these brands and pricing will come down the the vessel, spec, and location. A Lagoon, FP, and Leopard in similar condition in same area will be very close, maybe Leopard a touch more. Would also be cautious not to place too much value on the extras like water maker, ac when they are +10 years old. PS, hope Kathryn comes around ��

[Happ]

Originally Posted by fillintheblank

Okay, I have been looking and reading a lot. I like the leopard 38, the FP tabago, and the FP mahe as well as a few others. The leopard is in the lead, the tabago is in second due to price with the mahe in third. What makes no sense is the leopards are newer and are cheaper than the mahe, and bigger. The leopards seem to have the best reputation for build quality, but maybe slower.

Why am I seeing a 100k price difference from the tabago to the mahe which I cant account all of to the age and size when the leopard is bigger and maybe newer.

I cant say I/we would ever go full time cruising ( i would love to, her not so much ) so size nor being bigger for long term cruising or around the world comfort applies to my needs.

Do FP's just have that much better reputations that a mahe justifies the price over a newer bigger leopard. And if they did why is the tabago so "cheap".

Yes I know age of equipment, how its out fitted etc make a huge difference, but the tabago is out fitted similar but is much cheaper.

I don’t see $100k price differences. A 2007 Mahe 36 with dual cabins, dual heads was asking $199k. That is the most desirable layout and it has a bow sprit. The price is quiet high for the boat. Most likely the owner who I think recently bought the boat and did a lot of things to it and now wants what he has in the boat. It is possibly worth $150k at the most. So I can’t see how you think you see one of the other boats at $100k less. I see Leopard 38 in the 2000’s are anywhere from $170k to $235k. I saw an Tabago in Italy for $113k (US) but it was a 1996. Twice the age of the others.

Based on what I see there is no real difference in price. Get the boat you like the best.