Schionning Arrow 1200 - Propulsion (Current Marine?)

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by tp12

Well, if you'd let me bring a 6 pack/bottle of whisky on board perhaps I could view Bob's drop down legs [emoji6] hahaha. Just jokes mate.

We're more or less Sydney bound over the next couple of weeks or so, so we could probably organise something.

[tp12]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

We're more or less Sydney bound over the next couple of weeks or so, so we could probably organise something.

Cheers, Alan. You can take your pick from the attached photo, if you like.

[Doe818]

Good luck with anything from current marine that doesn't fall down. Heard they had two of their masts fail in the Caribbean earlier this year

[daletournier]

Originally Posted by Doe818

Good luck with anything from current marine that doesn't fall down. Heard they had two of their masts fail in the Caribbean earlier this year

Current marine dosent build the masts, the ones here (Knysna) that I can see are sparcraft.

But, this is interesting. I've noticed all of them here are single spreader masts, there's a bigger 50ish schionning directly behind a Knysna 500, similar size, similar height rig. The Knysna 500 has a sparcraft two spreader rig while the schionning has the single spreader sparcraft.

I'm certainly no rigging expert, what would the reasoning be behind the single spread a rig on such a powerful boat?

[tp12]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Current marine dosent build the masts, the ones here (Knysna) that I can see are sparcraft.

But, this is interesting. I've noticed all of them here are single spreader masts, there's a bigger 50ish schionning directly behind a Knysna 500, similar size, similar height rig. The Knysna 500 has a sparcraft two spreader rig while the schionning has the single spreader sparcraft.

I'm certainly no rigging expert, what would the reasoning be behind the single spread a rig on such a powerful boat?

Current Marine also started Current Spars so they could supply their own. From their website:

Originally Posted by Current Marine Website

After Current Marine was established as the yard building performance multihulls we set out to seek a carbon spar supplier in South Africa to build carbon rotating wing masts, at took the challenge to develop our own hence we started Current Spars primarily developed for our in-house projects and later to supply private and yacht building yards abroad and in South Africa. We steadily developed this division using our company’s strong skills in resin infusion which has constantly been developed as our base in the division of Current Composites which manufactures Composite infused cored panels primarily in the construction under license to Schionning designs pre-manufactured catamarans in flat pack components. Current Composites has an in house developed custom CNC router bed capable of cutting 12mx2, 75m which we use to manufacture the standard composite cored panels sizes of 12mx2.4m.

Current Spars builds carbon fixed and rotating wing masts along with composites wing booms.

The Current Spars gallery has a number of single spreader masts displayed. Are you sure the ones you've seen are Sparcraft, not Current Spars?

[daletournier]

Hi tp12, yep fairly certain, at least the one I can walk upto is a sparcraft, it's got the little sparcraft sticker on the side. I took note because I was comparing the two rigs.

I can't say for sure that the other two with masts here a sparcraft as I haven't been that close, but from a distance they look to be, also single spreader rigs.

They're aluminium not carbon.

The arrow and another new one don't have masts yet.

[tp12]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Hi tp12, yep fairly certain, at least the one I can walk upto is a sparcraft, it's got the little sparcraft sticker on the side. I took note because I was comparing the two rigs.

I can't say for sure that the other two with masts here a sparcraft as I haven't been that close, but from a distance they look to be, also single spreader rigs.

They're aluminium not carbon.

The arrow and another new one don't have masts yet.

Ah ok, cool, thanks for letting me know.

Cheers, Dale

[daletournier]

A complaint I've heard several times about Schionnings is that the decks/ coach roof etc are to round, which is a problem at sea, I was speaking to a guy this morning that just delivered one from Madagascar to here and this was his complaint, which I've herd before. I've been on them but never in a seaway therefore don't have an opinion.

This maybe something the Arrow build solves, being a flat pack build it dosent have that roundness from what I can see.

The other thing I don't like about the Schionnings (and I do like them) is they might as well not have forward cabin windows. Everyone I've been on in the the tropics has the slanted windows completely covered due to heat, can't see out of them. The Arrow has vertical windows that look good and seem more functional IMO.

[tp12]

Originally Posted by daletournier

A complaint I've heard several times about Schionnings is that the decks/ coach roof etc are to round, which is a problem at sea, I was speaking to a guy this morning that just delivered one from Madagascar to here and this was his complaint, which I've herd before. I've been on them but never in a seaway therefore don't have an opinion.

This maybe something the Arrow build solves, being a flat pack build it dosent have that roundness from what I can see.

The other thing I don't like about the Schionnings (and I do like them) is they might as well not have forward cabin windows. Everyone I've been on in the the tropics has the slanted windows completely covered due to heat, can't see out of them. The Arrow has vertical windows that look good and seem more functional IMO.

I've heard that, too. From what I understand it's fairly easy, no matter which design you want, to go flat on top like the Arrow designs. Flat on top of the hulls and round on the bottom seems to be the general consensus and makes sense to me.

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by daletournier

A complaint I've heard several times about Schionnings is that the decks/ coach roof etc are to round, which is a problem at sea, I was speaking to a guy this morning that just delivered one from Madagascar to here and this was his complaint, which I've herd before. I've been on them but never in a seaway therefore don't have an opinion.

This maybe something the Arrow build solves, being a flat pack build it dosent have that roundness from what I can see.

The other thing I don't like about the Schionnings (and I do like them) is they might as well not have forward cabin windows. Everyone I've been on in the the tropics has the slanted windows completely covered due to heat, can't see out of them. The Arrow has vertical windows that look good and seem more functional IMO.

I do think Schionning to some extent sacrifices practicality for the sake of aesthetics.

The heavily rounded hull to deck join is one example, another being the steeply raked bridgedeck cabin sides, which give a sleek look, but makes it neccessary to reverse down the stairs into the hulls.

[tp12]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

I do think Schionning to some extent sacrifices practicality for the sake of aesthetics.

The heavily rounded hull to deck join is one example, another being the steeply raked bridgedeck cabin sides, which give a sleek look, but makes it neccessary to reverse down the stairs into the hulls.

And minor improvements in windage? Or are the practicalities there not worth dismissing for the sake of having the sexiest boat in the anchorage and being a wee bit slipperier [emoji2]