Under-40' Cats with Outboards . . . Why Not More ?

[ArmyChief]

What a F-41 or F-44 ?

[shipofools]

Originally Posted by ArmyChief

What a F-41 or F-44 ?

Ian Farrier - http://www.f-boat.com/

outboards - http://www.f-boat.com/pages/catamarans/gallery.html last picture

[ArmyChief]

The f41 sc is nice looking. Now lets get FP, PCI, Lagoon offering a outdrive option.

[shipofools]

Bob Oram also designs some boats with outboards.

Bob Oram Design

[smj]

If I remember correctly 44c a member of this forum built an Oram 44 and powered her with twin Honda 20's. From what I read he is really happy with the install. To bad we can't get the Honda 20 in the xl shaft like they have in Australia. I would think of repowering our Seawind 1000 with a couple of those.

[ArmyChief]

Originally Posted by smj

To bad we can't get the Honda 20 in the xl shaft like they have in Australia. I would think of repowering our Seawind 1000 with a couple of those.

Why can't we?....There is ALWAYS a way....you gonna let a little government dictate what YOU can do?

[smj]

Originally Posted by ArmyChief

Why can't we?....There is ALWAYS a way....you gonna let a little government dictate what YOU can do?

It's not the govt. Dictating it's Honda. They must not see a market for the 20 hp xl shaft in the US

[ArmyChief]

I assumed it was a emission thing. My apologies. If it's just location...we must be able to find an importer that will do it or special order directly?

Plus, you do not think twin 20's would be too much for your seawind? outboard HP if I remember is measured at prop, wheareas I thought I read that inboards are measured at the shaft...so you lose some to the prop.

[Factor]

A number of bigger Schionnings also have been built with outboards.

[ArmyChief]

Factor,

Considering I do not have the time, place to do it, or job condusive to build a custom cat. I have to deal with current production and used. Not sure what the f41 with outboard option is. Also, just got a coorespondence from a PCI sales rep who stated that PCI might be able to build a new Gemini with a single outboard for me. They state two 9.9's would be to close and cancel out...but a gentleman I know in the Florida Keys modified a late model Gemini with dual Honda's and he says it works great.

[cat man do]

Originally Posted by Factor

A number of bigger Schionnings also have been built with outboards.

And even larger powercats

Ron Given has done these 11 metre cats with outboards and they have travelled on their own bottom from New Zealand to New Caledonia

Gallery - Given Power Catamarans
Ron Given Catamaran Design, sail and power, New Zealand and Noumea

Thats 1123 miles

Proof that ocean passages are more than possible in outboard powered craft
Especially those with sails as well as.

[ArmyChief]

I appreciate everyones input to this thread.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by ArmyChief

For all we know Yahmar and SD saildrives are putting $$ in the builders pockets for using their products (like pharmacutical sales people do to doctors who recommend their drug).

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For all we know you are a shill for the outboard industry.

Seems likely that the use of inboard diesels has been dictated by the customers rather than the yacht manufacturers. While I agree that o/b's are a proven means of powering a mid-size cat, I do not agree with many of your assertations denigrating the diesel option, and apparently many of the folks who actually buy them from the OEM feel that way too.

Meanwhile, I hope that you can find a boat that suits your requirements.

Cheers,

Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II lying Michaelmas Cay, Qld, Oz

[ArmyChief]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

For all we know you are a shill for the outboard industry.

Sir, I hope that was a joke. I would hope someone would not percieve that from my postings here. I am indeed in the military and overseas. Do a reverse IP check on me...would you like my DSN# or mailing address? A photo from outside my tent?

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Seems likely that the use of inboard diesels has been dictated by the customers rather than the yacht manufacturers.

What makes you say that? How did the customer dictate?

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

While I agree that o/b's are a proven means of powering a mid-size cat, I do not agree with many of your assertations denigrating the diesel option, and apparently many of the folks who actually buy them from the OEM feel that way too.

If I have offended any folks, it was not my intent and in my review of this thread I did not see any words implicating such. However, based off your comment..I can only assume I have.

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Meanwhile, I hope that you can find a boat that suits your requirements.

Cheers,

Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II lying Michaelmas Cay, Qld, Oz

Thank you

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by ArmyChief

Sir, I hope that was a joke. I would hope someone would not percieve that from my postings here. I am indeed in the military and overseas. Do a reverse IP check on me...would you like my DSN# or mailing address? A photo from outside my tent?

Of course it was a joke! May I assume that your statement about Yanmar putting money in the pockets of catamaran builders was a joke as well?

And I don't think that I suggested that you were not a bona fide member of the military on active duty (which I too appreciate).


What makes you say that? How did the customer dictate?

By buying and continuing to buy diesel powered cats when there are at least a few o/b powered options available.



If I have offended any folks, it was not my intent and in my review of this thread I did not see any words implicating such. However, based off your comment..I can only assume I have.

You assume a lot. But to be clear about it, I have not been offended by any of your posts. I have found them to be pretty one-sided, though, and wanted to air a somewhat different opinion.



Thank you

And to get one other thing across, I am not a fan of saildrives on any cruising boat. Diesels, yes, but with shaft drive.

Cheers,

Jim