Wharram Mana 24 - anyone with experience?

[DanielCZ]

Hi Sailors,
I'm selling my MiniCat and want to upgrade, I still need a trailerable boat, that can ideally fit 4 people.
The Mana caught my eye, thou I dont own a facility to build it, since its a CNC ready to build, I might rent a barn and try to build it.
Looking for someone with experience on the boat, over all the Tiki 26 sound better to me just due to size and accommodation, but its even heavier (to trail) and more complex to build. The Tiki 21 although certainly more seaworthy than me and my family, its too small on the accommodation site.
Production Cats are usually too large and too expensive and not trailerable. I love the simplicity of the Wharram design.
I'm in central EU, hence I would predominantly sail coastal overcrowded Adria, may be Baltic and Atlantic coasts.
Looking for someone willing to share their experience/recommendation

[boatman61]

Hi.. I have owned both the Tiki 21 and the Tiki 26.
The 26 I agree would be to heavy, not so much from the trailing side but more on the loading/unloading and assembly/disassembly part of it.
You would need at least two or 3 other men to get it off/on the trailer and put it together and the same to put it back on.
The 21 however is a breeze, 2 adults can get it off the trailer and put her together or take her apart.
To make this easier I made up a box frame with a V for each hull with wheels under the lifted and stood the hull in after lifting off the trailer and sat in the support, same with second hull then spaced for assembly.. after which I could push her down the slip to Launch, the boxes were recovered with a length of cord and we were ready to go.
Accommodation is as you say 'cramped' for an adult, however adequate for younger kid's in the hulls for sleeping.
For me I had a dome tent I erected on the centre deck for when anchored and also hand stitched my own design of sprayhood for sailing and sleeping under when solo.
Kinda need it when going fast as the spray from the bows can be like sitting in a shower.
Have no clue re the Mana but, like the Tiki's look to be a nice boat.
A few pic's of my 21 below..

[DanielCZ]

Thanks boatman61, I checked the dry weight for the 21 is 790 lbs 360 kg, while for the 24: Dry weight (approx.): 1190 lbs 540 kg, that is a difference but not so much of a difference. (The 26 1550 lbs 700 kg) Not sure thou how precise those data are.

[MicHughV]

Dang....I'm a Wharram fan from way back......be still my beating heart....and hide my check book....

[DanielCZ]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Dang....I'm a Wharram fan from way back......be still my beating heart....and hide my check book....

Frankly I love the Pahi desings, would I be able I would go for a 30+ft, but I'm not going to be a live aboard, hence interim 20+ trailer

[MicHughV]

I saw my first Wharram in the B'mas many years ago and thought to myself here is a boat made for the B'mas. Everything about it just appealed to me. Simple, inexpensive, shoal draft, sturdy, etc, etc.
To this day, I love 'em.
There are online sites totally dedicated to buying and selling Wharram's as those boats have a cult like following it seems.

[Tupaia]

You might consider a Woods cat - Wizard (folding), Strider (demountable) or even an Aquilon 800 (trailable) more expensive.

[Jimmathieson]

Have you seen Rod’s YouTube stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnK_Mbq7AF0&t=155s

[DanielCZ]

yes I have, its great for building overview, but there is not so much on actually using it, and accommodation, except as the picture shows, he felt it underpowered

[captnandy]

If you love the Pahi designs, why not go for the Pahi 26? It is a very beautiful design and a bit roomier than the Tikis. I have a Pahi 42 and have always loved the Pahi look. Personally I am not so keen on the Mana look, and I wonder what advantage the CNC kit has over cutting the panels yourself. Maybe a bit quicker to build, but choose the design that works for you best. You always get a better deal buying a ready-built boat than building your own, unless the building is really important for you. Good luck!

[DanielCZ]

The Mana predominately for the fact its a kit, building a boat is quite a challenge I never done, and I would rather go by something already figured out.
If I see a used one I would like, yes that would be preferable to build, anyway every boat is a construction site, so I'm sure I will not be bored one way or the other