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Old 13-04-2014, 10:15   #16
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Thanks for the link

So it's the same course as the RYA ocean as they also take sights from a vessel offshore, but is not independently examined?

The RYA course is not the qualification, it is a course if the course is not completed then a MCA written exam is also required

The oral exam is independently examined by a MCA examiner who grills (normally ) you for 1 1/2 hours on an ocean passage which must be as skipper or 1st mate. 2500 NM must have already been documents and signed off on the YM offshore and an ocean passage of over 600 NM as a pre exam requirement.

Can I ask if the IYT YM has the same pre course requirements in the limited master?
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Re: Yacht master Ocean courses MCA approved

This turned into something completely different than i was asking .. .. i was looking for recommendation for places to take the course and also the exams he he ..
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Old 13-04-2014, 10:29   #18
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Yep sorry, it's got a bit side tracked as is often the way on CF

Did you look up Cornish cruising?
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Yep sorry, it's got a bit side tracked as is often the way on CF

Did you look up Cornish cruising?
i will contact them on monday and perhaps take a drive there on tuesday and chat with them since i will be in the uk until thursday is it a public holiday on thursday ?? in england ?

i have found this school as well

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No bank holiday on Friday , but they will be there most of the time , pm me if you need some where to stay, we are 20 mins away
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Thanks for the offer perhaps next time which will be right after Easter then i will be having some more time and i will give them a shout tomorrow.. ..

had to spin over to Dublin for a meeting so i wont make it on this trip..


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No bank holiday on Friday , but they will be there most of the time , pm me if you need some where to stay, we are 20 mins away
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And as for the course completion endorsements , I think MCA should exam.... not just sign the paper work
I do think there is a conflict of interests when the RYA school has to fail or pass knowing that the candidate will probably come back to them for additional courses or not as the case may be
But then, the MCA do pop in the odd 'canidate' as a mole on the odd course as do the RYA it's self

A school has nothing to do with an RYA YM exam, the examiner is an independent RYA certified examiner , who has no connection with the school. The examination is booked between the candidate and the RYA.

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Thanks for the offer perhaps next time which will be right after Easter then i will be having some more time and i will give them a shout tomorrow.. ..



had to spin over to Dublin for a meeting so i wont make it on this trip..

The ISA do a mean YM off course exam, and their ocean syllabus still has star sights in it. !

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Tortola sailing

Thanks for the link

So it's the same course as the RYA ocean as they also take sights from a vessel offshore, but is not independently examined?

The RYA course is not the qualification, it is a course if the course is not completed then a MCA written exam is also required

The oral exam is independently examined by a MCA examiner who grills (normally ) you for 1 1/2 hours on an ocean passage which must be as skipper or 1st mate. 2500 NM must have already been documents and signed off on the YM offshore and an ocean passage of over 600 NM as a pre exam requirement.

Can I ask if the IYT YM has the same pre course requirements in the limited master?

Note there is NO. RYA YM offshore course. There is a syllabus, the exam is not dependant upon any specific previous knowledge, only sea time.

The YM , was originally developed by the RYA in 1971 based on the report of an internal panel of experts. To the chagrin of the RYA they neglected to trademark the name !

Training under the YM scheme in one form or another, is carried out in 44 countries worldwide. Not to mention multiple " copies" of the YM course in other countries


The ocean course was completely overhauled a few years ago to move it from being a completely celestial orientated to more a management of ocean voyages

It is independently examined , in some much, that the examiner holds the interview had no instruction part to play


It, the RYA YM offshore is the pre-eminent leisure certification.

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Over 2,200 RYA recognised training centres in more than 44 countries.
22,000 RYA instructors across the world.
15,000 professionals working on commercial vessels using RYA Certificates of Competence.
155,000 people completing RYA courses every year.
Over 300,000 expert RYA publications are added each year to the personal libraries of recreational and professional boaters.
Over 100 professional and recreational courses on the water, in the classroom and online. "


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Note there is NO. RYA YM offshore course. There is a syllabus, the exam is not dependant upon any specific previous knowledge, only sea time.

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