Can I move my 38-foot boat with an outboard?

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

just for grins.....this is my boat with the 15 hp on the back....photo was taken a number of years ago....

you will notice I'm aground.........I could elaborate why.....but....maybe another time.....suffice it to say, the outboard idea was short lived...

Looks more like your Navigation failed you.
This could happen to any engine fitted to a vessel in the wrong combo of events.
SV Cloud Duster

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

What Boatman says maybe true...?
However it's in the wrong category.
Nor reflects all that post here.
If we are not able to post positive constructive comments based on boating experience, rather than broad attacks of proposed political opposition.
How can this be constructive to less experienced boaters.

Hope your day's gets brighter Boatman61.
No worries about your post..just dont think it's helpful in this instance.
Question to you is What should be done about this issue in your view.
Possibly a different category?
SV Cloud Duster

It was good wine.. so had a rant.. still 1 bottle left..
As for 'This Issue'.. assuming you mean the OB, I have said what I have done in the past very early in the thread, it worked when needed and if you planned ahead that's all you need...
Oh.!!! and no set schedule.. as in 1230pm, this Saturday..
More like.. Sunday maybe Monday.. but if everything's perfect, Saturday.. maybe..
Old Fashioned Sailing..


But 'The Issue' is for the OP to decide if the OB is the way to go and go now for $, or put it off, stay, and get the diesel fixed for $$$.
I ain't telling him either way, just saying it does work, despite limitations.. must be long shaft.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by boatman61

It was good wine.. so had a rant.. still 1 bottle left..
As for 'This Issue'.. assuming you mean the OB, I have said what I have done in the past very early in the thread, it worked when needed and if you planned ahead that's all you need...
Oh.!!! and no set schedule.. as in 1230pm, this Saturday..
More like.. Sunday maybe Monday.. but if everything's perfect, Saturday.. maybe..


But 'The Issue' is for the OP to decide if the OB is the way to go and go now for $, or put it off, stay, and get the diesel fixed for $$$.
I ain't telling him either way, just saying it does work, despite limitations.. must be long shaft.

Understood, I value your opinions.

Go out and sail.
It's windy and very wet here in the PNW.
But I'm cleaning out the diesel stove and getting ready for a couple days of water therapy anyway.

My diesel runs fine.
And, I have a OB on the rail in case it's wants to be finicky.
Hasn't happened in the 8 years I've had this boat.

I believe your statement that one should know what to do if you lose your engine is very valuable.
If you can sail, or anchor, or call for help, flag down passing boating.
Often, there's no plan till it happens.
So valuable to have some back up.
SV Cloud Duster

[MicHughV]

Looks more like your Navigation failed you.
This could happen to any engine fitted to a vessel in the wrong combo of events.
SV Cloud Duster

There are only two kinds of boaters...those that have run aground....and those that have yet to run aground..

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Looks more like your Navigation failed you.
This could happen to any engine fitted to a vessel in the wrong combo of events.
SV Cloud Duster

There are only two kinds of boaters...those that have run aground....and those that have yet to run aground..

Or at least bumped bottom and been lucky enough to get off.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Looks more like your Navigation failed you.
This could happen to any engine fitted to a vessel in the wrong combo of events.
SV Cloud Duster

There are only two kinds of boaters...those that have run aground....and those that have yet to run aground..

Does a sunfish count as running aground? Did that at 10 yrs old.
Otherwise, I been dang lucky, or skillfull enough to not have a soft or hard grounding.
Just lucky is my guess.
SV Cloud Duster

[MicHughV]

Running aground .....It's an interesting observation.

In my early boating years, my depth sounder was one of those " flasher" units, it would give you an "approximation" of the water depth, so I rarely used it. A digital sounder didn't come later, until I had found some more $$$.

I depended on charts as it was my only option. Yah, seriously

Without a depth sounder, navigating the ICW and other shallow areas, I never knew what the water depth was...it could have been 6" or 6'.....but as I didn't know, I also didn't much worry about it. This resulted in numerous groundings, but I became quite proficient at getting of...most of the time. I kept a lead line on the boat, which saw quite a bit of use.

When I finally installed a digital sounder, I couldn't keep my eyes off the damned thing. I started to get real nervous, when the readings went less than 6' under the keel. That $%!$%!$% digital sounder added years to my life.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Running aground .....It's an interesting observation.

In my early boating years, my depth sounder was one of those " flasher" units, it would give you an "approximation" of the water depth, so I rarely used it. A digital sounder didn't come later, until I had found some more $$$.

I depended on charts as it was my only option. Yah, seriously

Without a depth sounder, navigating the ICW and other shallow areas, I never knew what the water depth was...it could have been 6" or 6'.....but as I didn't know, I also didn't much worry about it. This resulted in numerous groundings, but I became quite proficient at getting of...most of the time. I kept a lead line on the boat, which saw quite a bit of use.

When I finally installed a digital sounder, I couldn't keep my eyes off the damned thing. I started to get real nervous, when the readings went less than 6' under the keel. That $%!$%!$% digital sounder added years to my life.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Yeah, don't believe those readings digital or not.
Or charts, as things change.
Although helpful, they aren't 100%, ever.

Bottoms are never without obstacles, mounts, rocks, tree trunks,ect.
I always set an offset to the keel foot.
Your transducer/ plotter isn't going to tell about this stuff.

When I think I'm in less water I look for the bottom,cannot always see it.
And always watch for channel markers, range markers, and other obvious NAV signs.

Really, since I draw 4' I play it closer than my experience has taught me.
If I can see the bottom, I watch which way the crabs run when I come on them,
If they run away I'm too shallow, if they run under or don't move I'm Okay.

Just kidding!
SV Cloud Duster

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Running aground .....It's an interesting observation.

In my early boating years, my depth sounder was one of those " flasher" units, it would give you an "approximation" of the water depth, so I rarely used it. A digital sounder didn't come later, until I had found some more $$$.

I depended on charts as it was my only option. Yah, seriously

Without a depth sounder, navigating the ICW and other shallow areas, I never knew what the water depth was...it could have been 6" or 6'.....but as I didn't know, I also didn't much worry about it. This resulted in numerous groundings, but I became quite proficient at getting of...most of the time. I kept a lead line on the boat, which saw quite a bit of use.

When I finally installed a digital sounder, I couldn't keep my eyes off the damned thing. I started to get real nervous, when the readings went less than 6' under the keel. That $%!$%!$% digital sounder added years to my life.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Yeah, I think most of us on the forum started with flashers. We had one we called "Larry", made by Lowrance of course. 106' gave you a start because it looked just like 6'. But what engenious and simple devices. We loved it. It even worked at 50mph (power boat).

Now we have three digital sounders going all the time, one Signet and two off the chart plotter, all on different frequencies. The whales must hate us.

We use the alarm on the signet which has gotten a little less strident lately but Judy makes up for it, she watches that thing like a hawk when were are short tacking the beach.

I have to say that we have never hit bottom when we weren't sort of expecting it. You know, like pushing our luck. I don't consider that a navigation error, but a judgement error. Hitting something solid out of the blue...now that's a navigation error.

[MicHughV]

I didn't grow up in a boating community....I originally lived 400 miles from the nearest ocean.
Pretty much everything I learned, I learned at the School of Hard Knocks.
It takes a number of years to graduate from that school.

But, it was fun, besides the flasher, and outboard on the stern, also used RDF, leadlines, lighthouses had working lights, I learned to count flashes, listen to ocean buoy gongs, etc..

I could write a book, several books in fact, on the countless mishaps or near mishaps I endured.

I'm told the good Lord looks out for drunks, fools and sailors, so in that regard, I was covered under all three definitions.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

I didn't grow up in a boating community....I originally lived 400 miles from the nearest ocean.
Pretty much everything I learned, I learned at the School of Hard Knocks.
It takes a number of years to graduate from that school.

But, it was fun, besides the flasher, and outboard on the stern, also used RDF, leadlines, lighthouses had working lights, I learned to count flashes, listen to ocean buoy gongs, etc..

I could write a book, several books in fact, on the countless mishaps or near mishaps I endured.

I'm told the good Lord looks out for drunks, fools and sailors, so in that regard, I was covered under all three definitions.

Loved it. I guess St. Elmo has looked out for us.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

Looks more like your Navigation failed you.
This could happen to any engine fitted to a vessel in the wrong combo of events.
SV Cloud Duster

There are only two kinds of boaters...those that have run aground....and those that have yet to run aground..

No there are 3 kinds:
Those who have run aground
those who have not yet run aground
Liars

[Oeanda]

Also - those who have not actually run aground but are covering up for their girlfriend who was driving at the time...

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by Oeanda

Also - those who have not actually run aground but are covering up for their girlfriend who was driving at the time...

I guess it is only semantics, I didn't know you could drive a boat:

[Oeanda]

You can try...