Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-10-2012, 20:34   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Damariscotta, ME
Posts: 130
Cooling Explantion

I asked this question in a different way in the general forum, but am curious if someone could explain the difference between a fresh wayer and raw water cooled engine. In a Yanmar 3-cylinder. Are parts of the raw water cooled engine "sacrificial." How is the corrosive raw sea water kept from corroding the parts of the engine it touches? And is it just touching "cooling" hoses and pipers or getting into the engine proper. Forgive my ignorance, but sailing is learning enough let alone engines too for all love!
__________________
Capt. David Hipschman
Yacht Broker-Edwards Yacht Sales
Damariscotta, Maine 207-712-4047
dochip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 20:48   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
Ex-Calif's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ohio
Boat: Now boatless :-(
Posts: 11,580
Images: 4
Re: cooling explantion

Around the cylinders and head of water cooled engines are water passages.

In a raw water cooled engine - water is drawn in from the sea, circulated through the passages then expelled overboard - usually through the exhaust system where is helps cool the exhaust and muffle the engine sounds.

In a "fresh water" or "closed" cooling system the water passages are plumbed to a cooler and back to the engine and the coolant (coolant can be a mix of coolant and fresh water) is circulated by a fresh water pump just like your car.

In your car the "cooler" is a radiator and the air flowing past the radiator takes the heat out of the water.

In your boat the cooler or "heat exchanger" is "pack" of cooling pipes in a housing. Raw water is drawn in from the sea and circulated around the pack of cooling pipes, then expelled overboard, usually through the exhaust system as above.

Corrosive elements exist in both fresh water and raw water systems. Salt and scale are the primary drivers in raw systems. Rust is the driver in fresh systems. Keeping the right mix of fresh water and corrosion inhibiting coolant ensures a very long life for the fresh water system on the boat.

Raw water systems can be considered more reliable - fewer parts. But closed systems have the advantage that impeller failures or other debris can't enter the engine block as they are separate systems and a properly maintained closed system should never (never say never) have internal engine corrosion issues.
__________________
Relax Lah! is SOLD! <--- Click
Click--> Custom CF Google Search or CF Rules
You're gonna need a bigger boat... - Martin Brody
Ex-Calif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 22:03   #3
Moderator Emeritus
 
sailorchic34's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Islander 34
Posts: 5,486
Re: Cooling Explantion

Raw water cooled systems work as they run at a lower temperature, about 130 degrees F. This to keep the mineral buildup at bay. The closed loop / fresh water system runs at about 180 degrees. F, as mineral buildup is much less a problem and then diesels work better at the higher temps.

The raw water side of a closed loop system still runs below 130 degrees F which greatly reduces mineral buildup. Most of the mineral buildup happens over time, mainly after the engine shuts down and the cooler raw water heats up and minerals start dropping out of solution.

No real sacrificial parts, other then zincs (in raw water and some freash water engines).
sailorchic34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cooling


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: SC JS05 Sterling Cooling Unit aboutgone Classifieds Archive 4 24-07-2012 03:44
Yanmar 2GM20 Losing Cooling Fluid phmadeira Engines and Propulsion Systems 4 01-10-2011 04:51
For Sale: Volvo Heat Exchanger / Cooling System halcyonorion Classifieds Archive 0 19-09-2011 12:45
Bonehead Move: No Cooling Water . . . Now What ? gardnsailor Engines and Propulsion Systems 24 20-08-2011 07:26

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:06.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.