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Old 14-01-2019, 15:05   #16
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Re: Jugging diesel; "Baja" filters

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Re: Jugging diesel; "Baja" filters

Jerry jugs are a necessity for cruising IMHO. Sometimes it is necessary to get fuel at an auto/truck filling station. Also, I find it is often easier to zip over to a fuel dock in the RIB with jugs than to up-anchor and maneuver for a spot at the fuel dock. And fuel docks don't always have great fuel; in the PNW with our rain the fuel can be delivered with a bit of water. Taking jugs with a car to the local truck stop will assure quality fresh fuel at a lower price.

And speaking of water... The Baja filter has a series of flat screens, the bottom one for blocking water. It takes very little water spread across the screen to block fuel flow. This is not normally a problem, but when there is water contamination the Baja is a huge PITA. The other filter linked to above has vertical screens and should be able to hold a fair amount of water before the flow is blocked. For debris the Baja is probably better, but I prefer the high water capacity of the other. (I do have a Baja, but rarely use it.)

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Old 14-01-2019, 16:02   #18
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My reasons are about equal parts inadequate tankage and lack of available fuel at docks. Although if the tankage problem were solved, I wouldn't need to find fuel in so many places...
Found a Baja filter, cheap, on craigslist. Fellow said he carried it around Baja for two years and never, ever used it, and it had since been taking up space in his garage.

Oh, also, I am sticking with the Atomic4 for the time being, so the main engine, the dinghy engine, and the scuba compressor (and maybe someday the aux generator) all use the same fuel. At least one can is needed to transfer, anyway. Usually carry two in cruise mode.
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Jiggle siphon and this filter which beat the Baja in testing . . .


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I have one - It does a good job, BUT it is sooooo slow! The quoted rates are a joke and it gets nowhere near them.
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Re: Jugging diesel; "Baja" filters

Cruising up North (WA, BC, SE AK) I have certainly found myself at any number of places without a marine fuel dock nearby. I have walked down the street to a gas station/fuel facility hauling 5 gallon jugs in a cart. I have also taken a taxi (or hitched a ride) to a fuel facility with 2 or 3 jugs. Some places will send a truck with a minimum purchase but that often will not work for sailboats. I have been into the dock at Neah Bay a couple of times after the fuel dock has closed in the Fall. The tribal dock has fuel but they won't sell to yachties, so off I go with my cart and jugs. So yes, having a couple 5 gallon jugs with you is a good thing.
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It depends a lot where you are cruising. As Ann said if its world wide then you will at times need jerry jugs. We've used jerry jugs in places where the fuel dock was too hostile. Beam wind, tight quarters, ugly wall.

To move fuel from a jerry to the tank without a mess we use shaker siphons. They are magic and work really well.
Absolutely magic, don't leave home without one, or two.
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I have one - It does a good job, BUT it is sooooo slow! The quoted rates are a joke and it gets nowhere near them.
All it does is start the siphon. The siphon speed should be the same as any siphon setup with equivalent hose.
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My reasons are about equal parts inadequate tankage and lack of available fuel at docks. ...
Oh, also, I am sticking with the Atomic4 for the time being

Your engine choice may be another equal part. There are plenty of things to like about the Atomic 4 but they have never been known for their fuel economy.
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Re: Jugging diesel; "Baja" filters

about these Baja filters... do you use them any time you fill up at a marina? say a popular marina, even one with fuel tanks underwater like Lauderdale ? Or is this just for certain places..?
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All it does is start the siphon. The siphon speed should be the same as any siphon setup with equivalent hose.
I think he was talking about the filter being slow. Not the siphon.
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Re: Jugging diesel; "Baja" filters

Useless... we have a “Baja filter” which will only eliminate some of the larger sediment if present. It won’t filter out water or smaller crud, but it will make you feel better about yourself having done something.

If one was to actually want to do something to prevent dirty fuel issues, something like what’s pictured below would be what is needed.
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There should be 3 filters in a Baja filter for course, fine and water. It sounds like your water filter portion must be damaged
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There should be 3 filters in a Baja filter for course, fine and water. It sounds like your water filter portion must be damaged
We don’t use it any more, we installed a fuel polishing and double Racor system four years ago. No more worries.

But thank you very much for the suggestion.
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It depends a lot where you are cruising. As Ann said if its world wide then you will at times need jerry jugs. We've used jerry jugs in places where the fuel dock was too hostile. Beam wind, tight quarters, ugly wall.

To move fuel from a jerry to the tank without a mess we use shaker siphons. They are magic and work really well.
Never could get ours to work
Gave up on it
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