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Old 21-03-2022, 04:05   #1
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Moeller mechanical fuel gauge

I have (2) 25 gallon stainless tanks connected by a hose. There's no gauge and no marked dipstick. The tank looks accessible so I thought I'd put a Moeller mechanical gauge. Biggest worry is how to cut a 2" diameter hole in the top of the tank to drop in the Moeller. How should one go about this without sending bits and shavings of stainless fluttering into the tank?
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Re: Moeller mechanical fuel gauge

In all likelihood, you don't. But, you have (should have) plenty of protection from any that get there. Your pick-up outlet is not quite on the bottom, and you likely have two filters before your engine. Steel shavings are not going by them.

If you have visial access to the side of the tank, consider a sight gauge rather than a mechanical gauge. Mechanical gauges are not exactly precision measurers of fuel remaining, while a sight gauge will allow you to mark number of gallons/liters remaining as you fill an empty tank.

https://www.mcmaster.com/sight-gauges/
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I agree that for at-tank monitoring, a sight tube is best on a diesel tank. Not an option for gas, however. Also, if drilling a big enough hole for a gauge in the top, I wouldn't put in a mechanical one that requires me to look at the tank. I'd put in a sender for a gauge that can be placed somewhere easily visible while motoring.



A sight gauge is the most accurate thing, but if a good quality sender is placed in a good spot in the tank it should be accurate enough. Just from my dash gauges and knowing how they behave, I can almost always estimate within 10 gallons of what we'll take at the fuel dock for a 200 - 300 gallon fill. Plenty of times I've been within 5 gallons of my estimate (and occasionally as close as within a gallon, but I figure that's just luck).
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Consider a "TankTender" Only requires a small hole in the top of the tank, can handle several tanks (including water, fuel and waste) with one setup. Perhaps a bit more expensive than other solutions, but spot-on accurate and easy to use.
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What about a Gobius? https://www.gobius.se/en/products/

No holes required.
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Consider a "TankTender" Only requires a small hole in the top of the tank, can handle several tanks (including water, fuel and waste) with one setup. Perhaps a bit more expensive than other solutions, but spot-on accurate and easy to use.
Love those but with shipping and tax I'm looking at about a grand. Way out of the budget.
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Love those but with shipping and tax I'm looking at about a grand. Way out of the budget.
Same with the Gobius 1, for fuel sensor.
Is mounted on the outside of the Tank

Just the sensor 2 different gauge options at $275 each.
Other costs as well, about $500
Create a small 1" hole and stick your tank.
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Anyone here tried a sight tube on the crossover line?
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Love those but with shipping and tax I'm looking at about a grand. Way out of the budget.


Ofcourse not marine specific priced devices are available in the industrial market such as Afriso Unitel Pneumatic Tank Gauge, that could interest you.

https://fuelminder.biz/afriso-gauge/Afriso-Unitel.html
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Even for marine specific gauges, the tank tender and such are insanely expensive. A good quality (under $100) sender and a decent gauge (also under $100) will do the job fine. Just avoid the swing arm float type senders, they're less than great. The sliding float senders from KUS are well regarded and inexpensive, so that would be my pick.
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Ofcourse not marine specific priced devices are available in the industrial market such as Afriso Unitel Pneumatic Tank Gauge, that could interest you.

https://fuelminder.biz/afriso-gauge/Afriso-Unitel.html
I called them today, they've got a legit guru there named "Dave", actual engineer. Got a ton of info from him. Remarkable how he was able to talk me through the whole installation in 10 minutes. Highly recommend them. He has several solutions, for boats he recommends a unit called the Ktech Midget 277 which is essentially the Hershey 01-- which I assume isn't a candy bar. He thinks it's more suitable for boats than the Afriso. Heavier duty. Set you back about 4 bills. https://fuelminder.biz/ktech/levelometer.html
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There are also resistive senders. No moving parts, small hole and some you can cut to your exact length and others have a correction feature so if you tank slopes inward and downward 1/2 full will not be in the middle of the tank. These units get programmed so when you see 1/4 tank, you know it is 1/4 tank.
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