Perkins

[CaptainK]

Welcome aboard Pete.

It's nice to have a member who works in the marine engine business!!

Yeah, there's alot of seasones sailors in here. And if you ever have any questions. Feel free to post them here on this here forum.

Once again. Welcome aboard!!

[pete]

CaptainK once whispered in the wind:
Welcome aboard Pete.

It's nice to have a member who works in the marine engine business!!

Yeah, there's alot of seasones sailors in here. And if you ever have any questions. Feel free to post them here on this here forum.

Once again. Welcome aboard!!

Thanks very much. I got interested in sailing after reading McGrady's "Sailing the Dream". After that, I bought a whole bunch of sailing adventure books...which eventually lead me to this site. Don't know if I'll have many questions since I don't own a boat...maybe some day!

[ssullivan]

pete once whispered in the wind:
I do not have a boat, but have been a lurker on this board for quite a while...mainly to daydream (and keep up with the Bumfuzzle madness!). Anyway, I work for a company in New Jersey which was a Perkins distributor for a number of years (I am an engine salesman), but now is a Master Service Dealer. I just wanted to make the offer of a 20% discount off list on Perkins parts to anyone on this board....just ask for Pete and mention this site. Usually only resellers get this discount, end users pay list.

As others have mentioned, Perkins are installed a lot in new boats, but mainly overseas. Most here will now choose the CAT branded Perkins, even though they are the exact same engine. We used to sell a lot of one-off type of repowers for fishing vessels, but did not have have any large volume OEM accounts. There have been rumors that smaller Yanmar marine engines are not going to meet Tier 2 emissions, but I don't see how that could be possible...they are a very big company with money to invest in technology. Anyway, hope the discount can help someone out....

Pete

www.kraftpower.com
(800) 221-3284

Hi Pete,

I'll be taking you up on this offer, I'm sure. Especially since you're right over in Jersey.

For starters, can you let me know in a private message about the cost of:

1) all zincs for the Perkins 4-108
2) A complete repair manual for the 4-108

And also do you know anything about the starters? I have read online about many MANY people with starter issues on their Perkins 4-108s. Mine spins like mad, but the bendix will not engage the flywheel. Was rebuilt 6 mos ago, and never was right. Any thoughts? Any services at your shop for this?

[pete]

No problem...check your mailbox.

[CSY Man]

And also do you know anything about the starters? I have read online about many MANY people with starter issues on their Perkins 4-108s. Mine spins like mad, but the bendix will not engage the flywheel. Was rebuilt 6 mos ago, and never was right. Any thoughts? Any services at your shop for this?

Hmm, never had a problem with the starter on my 4-108 after 7 years of ownership.

Had the starter overhauled once, but more for preventive maintenace than any operational problem.

Them starters are generic anyway, carry a spare one wrapped in plastic and oil-fog..I am planning to, but have not gotten around to it.

My local electro shop said there is so many versions of this starter that I really need to bring in my old one to match a spare perfectly.

One of these days....27 years old and going strong however..

[never monday]

Cool, someone else to send folks to for Perkins!!!

[GordMay]

Do I have it right, Pat?

INLAND MARINE DIESEL
Atlanta, Ga
Service/Parts for all makes of diesel auxiliary
New Engine Sales
Universal, Beta, Yanmar, and Westerbeke
Tel: (404) 513-4414

[never monday]

GordMay once whispered in the wind:
Do I have it right, Pat?

INLAND MARINE DIESEL
Atlanta, Ga
Service/Parts for all makes of diesel auxiliary
New Engine Sales
Universal, Beta, Yanmar, and Westerbeke
Tel: (404) 513-4414

Yes sir that's correct. I still have sources for Perkins, but it can't hurt to have more!

[BC Mike]

This may not be applicable to the Perkins starter but the problem is common on old Fords. The part that throws itself out is stuck, the starter spins but there is no engagement. Clean all the parts, check for burrs, lightly greases and try again. The starter motor may not have enough zap to cause the part to slide out. Put new brushes and related pieces in the starter. The battery may not have enough zap to cause the starter to spin fast enough to make it engage.
If all else fails put it in second and push.
Michael

[ssullivan]

Ha ha ha! Michael! That "put it in 2nd and push" joke really got me. Hillarious!

Yeah, I figure I'll get in there and test to see that the starter is getting the full juice it should be, clean it out, and all that, as you say.

The real killer is that the starter is only about 8 months old.

I'll drop any interesting developments into another thread.

[S/V Elusive]

As an FYI, I have the complete 4154 Perkins manuals digitized.

Thomas

Yanmar with sail drive are the popular option in OZ lately. Easy to install, light weight and cheap. Down side is high reving, vibration and I think, short life span. I find more and more sailors that no nothing of their motors and don't want to learn and more and more shonky mechanics that know little more than their customers/victims. Thus the "throw away" approach. Also in OZ, there is little mono hull production left, more multis that are weight sensitive. I have a perkins 4236 which I think is the most reliable and easily worked on motor around. It is excellent. It is 35 years old and all I have done is lash caps as the valave stems had some wear. The 4236 takes forever to get oil to the top end.

[ssullivan]

Originally Posted by S/V Elusive

As an FYI, I have the complete 4154 Perkins manuals digitized.

Thomas

Can I get one of those?

I have the Perkins 410, but there are probably a lot of similarities.

Thanks.

[S/V Elusive]

ya know .... I could have sworn that I posted in this forum. Anyway, I have the manuals (digitized) for the Perkins 4154 in case anyone needs that.

Thomas

[S/V Elusive]

grrrr.... NOW my posts show up .. okay ... Sean? yes but they are large and I'm on at 14.4 using my cell phone ... but I have access to faster. I'll start sending the chapters as I get the time and access. Be patient

Thomas