Throttle Control on Pedestal

[drh1965]

The PO reversed the direction of the throttle control on the pedestal (ie. when you push out, the trottle closes). Why would someone do this? I had assumed there was a stripped part and reversing it allowed for not having to replace the part. Now I want to tackle fixing this. How does one get access to this area? The only screws I can find are where the pedestal through-bolts in the cockpit sole and the small ones where the compass screws in up top? Is this likely to be a large job to tackle?

[delmarrey]

I assume this is the round Edson pedestal?

http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/P...910CONTROL.pdf

http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/P...eringGuide.pdf

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by drh1965

The PO reversed the direction of the throttle control on the pedestal (ie. when you push out, the trottle closes). Why would someone do this? I had assumed there was a stripped part and reversing it allowed for not having to replace the part. Now I want to tackle fixing this. How does one get access to this area? The only screws I can find are where the pedestal through-bolts in the cockpit sole and the small ones where the compass screws in up top? Is this likely to be a large job to tackle?

Can't help with your query - but made me recall the happy memories of the boat I had with remote engine controls on an outboard.

For space reasons (a small boat!) these were fitted sideways (Port to Starboard - instead of the usual fore and aft). and also had one lever for throttle and a seperate lever for Forward and Reverse.

It drove me bananas - so you have my sympathies

[RaptorDance]

DRH1965 - How is your engine mounted? Do you have a V Drive?

We have a V drive on our boat so the "front" of the engine is aft and the "back" of the engine is forward. Our throttle cable comes down from our pedestal and does a 180 degree turn before going to the engine.

On a boat with a similar set up to ours, the end of the cable was damaged so the owner shortened the cable and eliminated the 180 turn. Thus what was a push aft on the throttle on the engine became a push forward - thus the reversing of the motion.

Check the engine end of your cable and see how it's run.

I've not poked around in a Newport 28II engine area, are there other owners on the net who can comment?

[drh1965]

Originally Posted by delmarrey

I assume this is the round Edson pedestal?

http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/P...910CONTROL.pdf

http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/P...eringGuide.pdf

I think so... I can't find any labels on the thing. I just see that Newports originally cam with Edson Pedestals.

[RaptorDance]

Oh and yes, to get access to the area you come in through the top. Remove the compass (make sure you index it's position before you remove it - we use a "Sharpie" marking pen) and work your way down.

On our pedestal, you start by removing the compass light housing.

[drh1965]

Originally Posted by RaptorDance

DRH1965 - How is your engine mounted? Do you have a V Drive?

We have a V drive on our boat so the "front" of the engine is aft and the "back" of the engine is forward. Our throttle cable comes down from our pedestal and does a 180 degree turn before going to the engine.

On a boat with a similar set up to ours, the end of the cable was damaged so the owner shortened the cable and eliminated the 180 turn. Thus what was a push aft on the throttle on the engine became a push forward - thus the reversing of the motion.

Check the engine end of your cable and see how it's run.

I've not poked around in a Newport 28II engine area, are there other owners on the net who can comment?

Its not a v-drive but it seems probable that something similar happened.

Thanks!

[Boracay]

On Boracay the throttle pod is made by Lewmar (When I looked they seemed to be the only makers.).

We have a flat plate that the compass and the guards fit through.

These are screws in the flat plate that hold the throttle pod in position.

Removing those screws allows the pod to be moved slightly, just enough to access the rest of the mounting screws.

Once half of the throttle pod has been removed the internal workings of the throttle pod can be accessed.

It is then not difficult to change the direction of the throttle/gearbox movement.

The main thing to watch out for is not to loose any of the many unique tiny parts that are only replaceable by buying a complete new assembly.

If this is you and you need more info let me know and I will get some photos etc.

[never monday]

Newport 28's were fitted with the Universal 18 in a standard configuration. It's possible you have a Meriman pedestal. or Yacht Specialties. Some of these only allow one direction of travel on the throttle lever. As stated pull the compas and it will all become clear from there.

[irwinsailor]

I have the same problem and I have a Yacht specialties pedestal. I have had it apart and there is no adjustment in it. If I want to change the throw it will need to be done on the engine. I have become used to it and like the idea of pushing the lever forward in a panic situation.

[drh1965]

Originally Posted by never monday

Newport 28's were fitted with the Universal 18 in a standard configuration. It's possible you have a Meriman pedestal. or Yacht Specialties. Some of these only allow one direction of travel on the throttle lever. As stated pull the compas and it will all become clear from there.

I looked at some photos on the net and I believe you are right, it is a Merriman pedestal. Seeing that parts are impossible to get, I think I might just leave it alone. Are there parts in there that require lubrication? I would assume so?

Thanks!

[drh1965]

Originally Posted by Boracay

On Boracay the throttle pod is made by Lewmar (When I looked they seemed to be the only makers.).

We have a flat plate that the compass and the guards fit through.

These are screws in the flat plate that hold the throttle pod in position.

Removing those screws allows the pod to be moved slightly, just enough to access the rest of the mounting screws.

Once half of the throttle pod has been removed the internal workings of the throttle pod can be accessed.

It is then not difficult to change the direction of the throttle/gearbox movement.

The main thing to watch out for is not to loose any of the many unique tiny parts that are only replaceable by buying a complete new assembly.

If this is you and you need more info let me know and I will get some photos etc.

Thanks. I'm going to open up the pedestal this weekend to assess the situation.

[Chief Engineer]

Once you get the Binnacle off, It should be readily apparent if you can change the throw.

Sometimes I would love to put my hands around the neck of the "designers" of some of these vessels.

(ranting light extinguished)

[drh1965]

Well, it is a Merriman pedestal. I was able to get the compass off and then it started raining. The throttle controls were not easy to reach. That much I could determine right away.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by drh1965

Well, it is a Merriman pedestal. I was able to get the compass off and then it started raining. The throttle controls were not easy to reach. That much I could determine right away.

See link first Merriman Pedestal Parts - SailNet Community

Doc Freeman died a couple/three years ago and all his stuff got auctioned off. One may just have to make replacement parts or retrofit.