Antifoul Paint - Do you add any 'extras'

[captainozzie]

Adding Copper Arsenate also works a treat added to Antifoul if you can get it !!!
Hint: It is called Copper Glaze in the pottery industry and is available in pottery supply shops.

[Elie]

I have read somewhere that adding some cayenne peper powder would add some slime reduction effect. I wonder if there any proof of this idea. Some sailors in Germany said that they have used zincofax(baby bottom rash medecine) with some succès... ASs they said. But it most be very expensive to treat a 40 ft hull with the stuff.

[Jim Cate]

Making a paint toxic to marine organisms isn't very hard, and some of the additives that are touted likely do that. What is hard is arranging the toxins so they are effective over long periods of time, and that is one of the efforts that the paint companies put a lot of research into. I personally doubt if the amateurs do it better, no matter how much anecdotal evidence is presented.

Gotta agree with fstbttms on this one!

Jim

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Elie

I have read somewhere that adding some cayenne peper powder would add some slime reduction effect. I wonder if there any proof of this idea.

I guess you haven't read this 4-page long thread

[pumpcity]

From the multinational, multi-billion dollar corporations that manufacture anti fouling paints and have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on R&D over many decades- "Why didn't we think of that?!!??

Fstbttms:
I'm guessing not a day goes by that R&D isn't working on something.

By the way, where did grantmc and siamese go?

[Jason Flare]

fastbottoms,


If the multi billion dollar corporations are doing such a good job why are you cleaning boat bottoms?

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

If the multi billion dollar corporations are doing such a good job why are you cleaning boat bottoms?

...said the guy who keeps his boat in a place where the sailing season is what? Five months long? And then he hauls the boat for the rest of the year?

Why do people who don't know anything about anti fouling paints feel free to chime in with something snarky, like they have anything to contribute? Friggin' ponderous.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

...said the guy who keeps his boat in a place where the sailing season is what? Five months long? And then he hauls the boat for the rest of the year?

Why do people who don't know anything about anti fouling paints feel free to chime in with something snarky, like they have anything to contribute? Friggin' ponderous.

Sadly you're wrong. Guess again.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

Sadly you're wrong. Guess again.

Then bring it, chief. Tell me why you think anti fouling paint manufacturers don't make an effective product.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

Then bring it, chief. Tell me why you think anti fouling paint manufacturers don't make an effective product.

I didn't say they didn't make an effective product. But if the paint manufacturers felt they made an effective product they would discontinue R&D and you wouldn't be cleaning bottoms

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

I didn't say they didn't make an effective product. But if the paint manufacturers felt they made an effective product they would discontinue R&D and you wouldn't be cleaning bottoms

That's about as stupid a thing as I've read here in a long time.

Paint manufacturers do make an effective product, given the constraints put on them by regulatory agencies. But how would you know? Cleaned a lot of boat bottoms, have you?

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

That's about as stupid a thing as I've read here in a long time.

Paint manufacturers do make an effective product, given the constraints put on them by regulatory agencies. But how would you know? Cleaned a lot of boat bottoms, have you?

Where are we now? You know bottom paints are effective because you clean boat bottoms?

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

Where are we now? You know bottom paints are effective because you clean boat bottoms?

I know paints are effective because I've performed over 30,000 in water hull cleanings over the last 22 years. I have cleaned boats with every anti fouling paint product available in California and many that are not. I have cleaned boats with paints that are illegal in most of the civilized world. I have cleaned boats witout any anti fouling paint whatsoever. I have participated in product testing and evaluations for major paint manufacturers. So yes, I think I am particularly qualified to state whether anti fouling paints are effective or not.

Or maybe you think the guy who services these products, seeing how they perform in real world conditions day in and day out, doesn't understand what is an effective product and what is not. Or maybe you just have unrealistic expectations about what they are capable of doing.

Where does your expertise come from, hmmm?

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

I know paints are effective because I've performed over 30,000 in water hull cleanings over the last 22 years. I have cleaned boats with every anti fouling paint product available in California and many that are not. I have cleaned boats with paints that are illegal in most of the civilized world. I have cleaned boats witout any anti fouling paint whatsoever. I have participated in product testing and evaluations for major paint manufacturers. So yes, I think I am particularly qualified to state whether anti fouling paints are effective or not.

Or maybe you think the guy who services these products, seeing how they perform in real world conditions day in and day out, doesn't understand what is an effective product and what is not. Or maybe you just have unrealistic expectations about what they are capable of doing.

I'm very happy with my bottom paint.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

I'm very happy with my bottom paint.

Oh, so your intial statement in this thread wasn't about the efficacy of anti fouling paints as much as it was about the need (or lack thereof) for in-water hull cleaning?