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Jon D · 25-03-2006, 05:08

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GMac once whispered in the wind:

Downside of double braids for anchoring. As soon as you nik the cover you get big strength loss. 2 in 1, and most other polyester/nylon Dbl braids, takes 50% of the load on each the cover and the core.

:-)

FYI both Yale and New England ropes make multi-braid anchor line. Plait is Yales, Mega Braid is New Englands. One is an 8 strand weave the other a 12. Neither are double braid in the traditional sense. Key advantage is much higher working loads for a given diameter and the coil/lay better so take up less room

**irwinsailor** · 25-03-2006, 09:54

We are going all chain. It takes care of all the problems with reguard to the splice. It will cost a few hundred more but I can make this up with the lower price of this new model windlass. This has given me such a headache.

Jon D · 25-03-2006, 10:30

Gunnar

All chain for the primary was my decision as well. It works well even though added an extra few hundred pounds to the bow.

However I carry a total of 4 anchors -- the others have a mix of chain and line. That's the only reason I made the point between double braid and the multi-braid anchor lines...

Yes this stuff will give you a headache...I'm trying to fit all the spares on the boat so we know how much room we have for our stuff vs boat stuff..

**irwinsailor** · 25-03-2006, 10:35

Jon , I like you will be carring 4 anchors too. This setup if for our main anchor setup. All others will be some chain but mostly 3/4" three strand nylon.

**irwinsailor** · 30-03-2006, 05:14

I ordered a full drum of chain from Defender, they beat the best price that I found. So I can now say that a all chain rhode is the best because that is what I will have.

Charlie · 30-03-2006, 08:39

January 2006 issue of Practical Sailor had reviews of windlasses. Don't remeber what size boat they were for though. Might be worth taking a look.

Question. Altough your primary anchor will be all chain when you have to put out a second anchor that has a rope rode how will you pull that up if you don't have a gypsy?

**irwinsailor** · 30-03-2006, 16:55

I ordered the windlass with a gypsy and drum. I will be able to handle about anything.

Charlie · 30-03-2006, 17:09

That answers that then. Pretty complicated discussion that went on. My synopsis would be bigger cable better for the electric windlas and don't go too big on the chian or you need a bigger windlas. Makes sense. Good luck with install let us know how it comes out.

Charlie

GMac · 30-03-2006, 22:10

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Charlie once whispered in the wind:
and don't go too big on the chian or you need a bigger windlas.

Hope you don't apply that theory to the brakes in you car (small being cheaper to replace), size of anchor (little ones are a lot easier to handle) and many other things. Why not save a fortune and use 3mm so the 5 year olds can pull it up.

I'm sure you ment "Don't go silly and put a massive chain on, just use one that is perfectly adequate for the job and get a windlass to match"

**irwinsailor** · 06-04-2006, 05:38

It took 3 days for the chain to arive from Defender.

**irwinsailor** · 06-04-2006, 05:59

Oh by the way ..... 3/8" ACCO G4 chain at West Marine $5.99 a foot plus shipping for 400' drum, Defender $2.50 a foot for 400' plus shipping.

Jentine · 10-04-2006, 15:08

http://1st-chainsupply.com/chain/gbb...lass_chain.htm

$2.83/foot including shipping

**irwinsailor** · 10-04-2006, 15:15

I used 1st chain supply's price for Defender to beat, and they did, not by allot but they did beat the price. I also used the chain as part of a much larger order and I received sale pricing on everything. My order was about $7000.