Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-10-2023, 00:26   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Every one, My boat is 2005 Mainship 34 with two Yanmar LHA-STP diesel. I am the second owner and bought her in 2017. I just hired a marine mechanic to do a complete cooling system service including both fresh water and seawater two month ago. I drive the boat once every two week. Yesterday, I suddenly found out there are big white powder build-up at oil cooler of port engine. It had never happen before the service. I told the mechanic who has done the service and he told me there may be some clogging at mixing elbow which should be changed every eight years.

Please see the attached photos

My question is 1) why there was no the white powder before the service?
2) how ofter Yanmar mixing elbow need to be replaced?

Thanks you so much.

Wang
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	截屏2023-10-09 下午6.33.16.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	333.8 KB
ID:	281875   Click image for larger version

Name:	截屏2023-10-09 下午6.32.53.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	351.9 KB
ID:	281876  

mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 01:22   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Sweden
Boat: CSY 44 Pilothouse Ketch
Posts: 141
Images: 5
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

It could be many things. One thing it could be is very small leaks that allow a small amount of heated water under pressure to come out.
That water is loaded with minerals. The water evaporates and leaves the minerals behind as 'fluff'.
Does the 'fluff' taste salty?
The first thing I would do is disassemble, clean, and reseal.
Flying Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 02:01   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Fly Monkey, thank you so much. I will taste it tomorrow and report back to you.
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 02:03   #4
Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,633
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Replace the zincs pronto, that corrosion is a bad sign.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3227.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	334.9 KB
ID:	281877  
skipperpete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 02:30   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Skipperpete,

I will do it tomorrow and report back to you. Thank you so much. Best regards
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 15:59   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Skipperpete, I checked the two anodes of oil cooler. One is 50% worn out and the other is 10% worn out. The two anodes have been changed three months ago.
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 16:06   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Flying Monkey, the powder at oil cooler isn’t salty at all and isn’t dissolved in water but in vinegar. The powder at the inter cooler is tasted salty and can be dissolved by water. I also checked the anodes. One of the 50% worn out and the other 10% worn out. Both anodes have been changed three months ago.
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 16:19   #8
Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,633
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Ok, that makes it more difficult. Is any of the white white powder appearing on the raw water pump or engine seacock? That corrosion is from within the raw water circuit,not from external leaks. has any electrical work been done on the boat or engines, is it possible that the anodes are insulated with the threads over wrapped with teflon tape?
This is concerning because the oil cooler is a soldered unit, no gasket , so the leak from within is coming through the joint. With an oring sealed endcap this is a heads up to immediately reseal or repair the weep but a soldered joint is more difficult to resolve. I see you’re in Australia, message me if you want any advice, hopefully a corrosion analist will weigh in with some informed and current knowledge of how this might happen
skipperpete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2023, 18:35   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Skipperpete, Thank you so much for your advices. There is no white powder on seacock and raw water pump. I taste the powder and it isn’t salty at all.
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2023, 16:19   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Hi Skipperpete and Flyingmonkey,

I just had a conversation with Yanmar parts dealer about the white powder and was suggested to change the mixing elbow first since I haven't change it for 6 years. I decide to change the elbow and see how it going since it is difficult to find a corrosion analyst right now ,Is it also called bond galvanic corrosion tester? Sorry my English is no good. I also have a question about the air filter of Yanmar 4LHA-stp, how often do I need the change it? How come the service manul of yanmar doesn't mention it at all ? Thank you!
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2023, 17:02   #11
Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,633
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by mainship 34 View Post
Hi Skipperpete and Flyingmonkey,

I just had a conversation with Yanmar parts dealer about the white powder and was suggested to change the mixing elbow first since I haven't change it for 6 years. I decide to change the elbow and see how it going since it is difficult to find a corrosion analyst right now ,Is it also called bond galvanic corrosion tester? Sorry my English is no good. I also have a question about the air filter of Yanmar 4LHA-stp, how often do I need the change it? How come the service manul of yanmar doesn't mention it at all ? Thank you!


Most of em don’t have an air cleaner, just a wire mesh strainer at the turbo intake but when they do have an actual air filter it’s just a “ waistband” of porous black foam. If you have this fairly expensive belt of filter foam, just give it a wash in soapy water every time you do an oil change but let it dry before putting it back on. Make sure it’s in good condition, it’s bad when the foam starts to disintegrate and gets inhaled by the turbo ( despite the presence of the wire mesh strainer).
skipperpete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2023, 17:05   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Australia
Boat: mainship 34 trawler 2005 Twin
Posts: 12
Re: oil-cooler white powder build-up

Thank you so much!
mainship 34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
oil


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Want To Buy: Perkins T6.3544 Oil Cooler and Gear Cooler Combo nhsailor General Classifieds (no boats) 1 07-04-2023 18:53
Bronze fitting for oil cooler to transmission oil cooler chowdan Engines and Propulsion Systems 3 25-10-2020 12:49
Urgent white powder seacocks arch007 General Sailing Forum 8 21-01-2020 14:15
Strange white 'fuzz' on oil cooler fitting thematt Engines and Propulsion Systems 26 25-11-2019 15:31

Advertise Here
  Vendor Spotlight
No Threads to Display.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:32.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.