Propane system Question???

[Idylles15.5]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Thats what the solenoid does, it shuts off the propane and if a solenoid fails, it fails in the closed position. Still it does not hurt to manually shut the tank off if it makes you feel better.

I know what the selonoid does lol. Thats funnny.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by Idylles15.5

I know what the selonoid does lol. Thats funnny.

Redundancy is always funny

[cal40john]

Originally Posted by Idylles15.5

I always go shut the tank off after I switch the selonoid off anyway. Better safe then sorry. Why leave the gas pressure on in the line and the cabin if your not cooking anyway. Just the way I was brought up.

Originally Posted by Idylles15.5

I know what the selonoid does lol. Thats funnny.

These two statements seem to be contrary with a typical install. If the solenoid is in the propane locker where it belongs then closing the solenoid shuts off the gas to the line and the cabin the same as the valve on the tank.

Does your installation leave the line in the cabin pressurized to the open tank when you shut off the solenoid because it is in the cabin? That is not the typical installation.

If the solenoid is in the locker and you meant that you don't trust a solenoid then it makes more sense. Lots of belt and suspenders people in the world.

[Idylles15.5]

Really? I mean come on. Belts and suspenders? I grew up on old Elcos, Mathews and Chris Crafts. My Dad could dock a single screw in a storm. Always opened the deck hatches above the motors when we fueled up. Not just the blowers. You ever see a gas fume explosion or propane. Very ugly. We had one at our gas dock this year. Two guys blown off the boat, one dead and two of the dock boys got blown into the water. I was working on a boat about 100 ft away. Look it up, Manhasset Bay Marina, Port Washington NY. Someone else on here also stated that the solenoid always closes in the closed position if it fails. Also untrue as I have replaced ones that have jammed or hung up. Combination of electric, salt water environment and a mechanical valve, yes they fail. That's why I always shut off my tank. How many times do you ask someone to listen to the valve up in the propane locker click when you shut it off? Even if the light goes off it could be cracked open a little. Its not redundancy it's called common sense.

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by Ukeluthier

A tee on deck may be OK if away from the cockpit, but one in a locker somewhere other than the propane locker -- like a lazarette -- certainly wouldn't be safe. It all drains to the bilge.

Yes, that's what I meant to say.. no joints in an enclosed space except the propane locker.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Idylles15.5

.............. Its not redundancy it's called common sense.

Its redundancy. When you turn off your TV set do you also unplug it? Your computer? Do you switch off the master breaker when you leave the house (or the boat)?

It's risk management. If it makes you feel better to close the valve, that's fine but the valve could leak as well. Safest is to unscrew the hose from the tank.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by rwidman

Its redundancy. When you turn off your TV set do you also unplug it? Your computer? Do you switch off the master breaker when you leave the house (or the boat)?

It's risk management. If it makes you feel better to close the valve, that's fine but the valve could leak as well. Safest is to unscrew the hose from the tank.

Then remove the tank from the boat

[Idylles15.5]

Originally Posted by rwidman

Its redundancy. When you turn off your TV set do you also unplug it? Your computer? Do you switch off the master breaker when you leave the house (or the boat)?

It's risk management. If it makes you feel better to close the valve, that's fine but the valve could leak as well. Safest is to unscrew the hose from the tank.

Why do I bother when people are capable of such rediculous comments. I suppose in your own mind comparing turning a valve three times clockwise on a tank that could potentially blow up you and your boat to unplugging a TV was witty. It just proves your an arrogant moron. As they say there is an ass for every seat. I'll move on to a forum with more educated people as this one has degraded to the short yellow bus members.

[four winds]

I flip the switch off while the stove is still lit. Flame dies and then cut off the stove. Thinking that verifies solenoid operating properly each time it is used.

After swapping tanks, briefly open then close the valve. Then watch the gauge for a pressure drop to verify a good seal on the supply hose. That's the only time I use the valve.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by Idylles15.5

Why do I bother when people are capable of such rediculous comments. I suppose in your own mind comparing turning a valve three times clockwise on a tank that could potentially blow up you and your boat to unplugging a TV was witty. It just proves your an arrogant moron. As they say there is an ass for every seat. I'll move on to a forum with more educated people as this one has degraded to the short yellow bus members.

That would be "you are an arrogant moron".

[Boatyarddog]

Like thru hull valves, propane tank valves should be closed upon leaving the boat.
Accidents happen without notice.
Maybe a rat chews thru your supply hose?

You'll feel less anxious if your in the habit of thinking safety.


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[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

Like thru hull valves, propane tank valves should be closed upon leaving the boat.
Accidents happen without notice.
Maybe a rat chews thru your supply hose?

You'll feel less anxious if your in the habit of thinking safety.


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The solenoid has already shut of the fuel. Don't think a rat could chew through a solenoid.

[mitiempo]

If you have rats it does show a lack of maintenance.

[Boatyarddog]

Rodents get in and walk the dock line to the boat with ease, I've seen that


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[wooden head]

You know those really cool explosions on TV when the boat,rv, house car or whatever goes up in a huge fireball? That's propane they use for the effect. Redundant safety measures don't seem so paranoid to me. Better yet keep the sh, er, stuff off the boat altogether.

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