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Old 01-08-2011, 07:38   #1
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Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - Project Report

Aside from the cockpit sole repair, the next biggest project in the engine room area is to replace the bulkhead separating the engine room from the galley. The most extensive damage done to Windsong, thanks to years of leaks and neglect, was the deterioration of anything made of plywood on the port side. All cabinets, bulkheads, floorboards, etc that were in the path of the leaks on the port side of the boat were rotten away and need replacement. At least the teak trim held steady. The problem was evident when I bought the boat, but the extent of it was only uncovered after taking most of it apart.

The first bulkhead to be replaced is the port bulkhead between the galley and engine room. I wasn’t planning on replacing this one, even after taking most of the boat apart. It seemed to be in mostly decent condition, with the exception of the port most side that is hidden behind cabinetry anyways. When I finally took apart the refrigerator that was mounted on the rear of the bulkhead, I found much more damage and decided it needed to be replaced with the rest of them.

Before taking anything apart


Post demolition, damage exposed




From the engine room:


First up was to remove the existing bulkhead, trying to keep it from falling apart so I could use it as a template. Here is the engine room exposed without the bulkhead:





I spent a lot of time figuring out what kind of plywood I need to use for the bulkheads. I studied all of my books, forums and google searches. Not to my surprise at all, there were dozens of differing opinions on whats best and whats worst. Eventually, I resigned to buying expensive marine grade plywood, and as soon as I was ready to start the project I went up to the lumber yard to buy a plank of the stuff. The staff were kind enough to recommend that I use a different grade of plywood, half the price of the marine stuff. Marine and the alternate used the exact same wood and glue, the only difference was the facing grade and the possibility of small gaps in the glued plys. I planned on sealing the entire bulkhead in a few layers of epoxy, particularly thick on the edges; and after explaining this they said it was a waste to pay twice the price for the marine stuff. Marine ply has its uses, and I will be getting some for the hull of my dinghy, but the bulkheads should be fine with the stuff I got. It wasn’t cheap, definitely more expensive than anything at Home Depot, but not nearly the price of marine ply.

Here is the new bulkhead already cut out. I used an electric jig saw and taced the lines using the old bulkhead. It needed a bit of trimming to fit properly, but I eventually had a good dry fit.



I spent the next few days applying two layers of clear epoxy to seal the piece (4 layers on the edges). It was tough sanding the stuff perfectly flat, so it took longer than I expected. Since this plywood was a lower grade, one side is not a smooth surface with a few knots. It didn’t really matter as that side will be in the engine room and covered with insulation. The higher quality side will be primed and painted to match the rest of the interior. I spent more time making sure the galley side was flat and flawless.

Final epoxy coat on:


I sanded the entire surface once more after the final coat of epoxy. Before fitting it into place, I glued a strip of closed-cell foam on the top edge of the bulkhead. The reason for this is so no hard spots develop on the deck due to compression on the bulkhead. I had a hard time finding the foam, so I just cut up a piece of foam pipe insulation that was made of the same stuff. Next I put the bulkhead in place, drilled holes and screwed it into place. The holes were counter-sunk so I can plug them with bungs if I choose. I won’t bother with bungs on the engine room side, but probably will on the galley side.

With the bulkhead in place, I then tabbed it to the cabin top with fiberglass and epoxy. Trim will hide the fiberglass tabs once everything is finished. I made sure the cabin top was sanded and cleaned, following basic epoxy procedures. I first made filets of thickened epoxy on each side:





Then a couple layers of fiberglass. I used one layer of 6 oz cloth on the front, and two layers of biaxial on the back. The bulkhead was previously tabbed with only one layer of cloth on the front and nothing on the back, no filet. It isn't a structural bulkhead, so I didn't think it needed much beefing up. But the biaxial on the back made it much more solid IMHO.



Fiberglass cured and sanded:




With that, the bulkhead replacement was finished! As I mentioned before, the engine room side will have sound insulation glued to it, and the galley side will be primed and painted with the rest of the cabin.




Engine room side:





I feel good about this repair, especially to finally have tried and completed a big one I have been nervous about. A few more bulkheads to go, but those will be easy as I know what I’m doing now.

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Old 01-08-2011, 07:50   #2
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - project report

Beersmith,

Thanks for sharing the pictures of your project. Keep up the good work.

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Old 01-08-2011, 08:26   #3
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - project report

Building a boat is not 1 big project. It is hundreds of little projects, many of which have to be performed simultaneously.
Most newbies under-anticipate the time required to complete a task, and panic because they think they've lost control.
2 1/2 times what you thought it would take is normal
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Building a boat is not 1 big project. It is hundreds of little projects, many of which have to be performed simultaneously.
Most newbies under-anticipate the time required to complete a task, and panic because they think they've lost control.
2 1/2 times what you thought it would take is normal
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Since beginning the rebuild, I've completely thrown out all notions of how long this will take, and what is left to do. It is nearly impossible to see how far I have yet to go, but I can take pride in how far I've come. I just take it one step at a time, realize that each step will evolve into 3-4 more, and take it as I go. At least it is a labor of love and I am still enthusiastic about it.
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - project report

AWESOME work!!!!! labors of love last forever.... you have a decent boat becoming a great one... smooth sailing!
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If you are going to do lots of jobs, I cannot over-recommend Bruce Bingham's Sailors Sketchbook.
I keep a copy in the magazine rack along side the porcelain throne.
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Since beginning the rebuild, I've completely thrown out all notions of how long this will take, and what is left to do. It is nearly impossible to see how far I have yet to go, but I can take pride in how far I've come. I just take it one step at a time, realize that each step will evolve into 3-4 more, and take it as I go. At least it is a labor of love and I am still enthusiastic about it.
Boy does this ever ring true! Great work man!
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - Project Report

Looks great! I always hang back with the first one of everything I do on the boat because of lack of confidence. Once I've done one then the rest becomes easy. I've got a couple more bulkheads to go on mine and now have found rot in the foredeck so will take that completely off and start from scratch.
Termites and dry rot are my enemies.
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - Project Report

My 2 cents, If your on stands beware of hull deformation when the old bulkhead is removed, it will be permanent if not addressed and bulkhead is replaced. The stands are typically placed on the bulkhead location.

A big money saver can be to use once used concrete form plywood. It can often be obtained for free or cheaply as jobs complete the pouring stage. Its got a smooth finish and water proof glue, there are various grades but most are void free. The plasti cote(tm) is amazing stuff
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - Project Report

Awsome stuff man!
I've got to do : head bulkhead,aft cabin and both sides of engine space.
Been trying to save enough to hire a finish carpenter but may have to have a go myself.
Your post reads like a how-to book!
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If you are going to do lots of jobs, I cannot over-recommend Bruce Bingham's Sailors Sketchbook.
I keep a copy in the magazine rack along side the porcelain throne.
Just checked this book out and will be ordering it. Thanks!
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Awsome stuff man!
I've got to do : head bulkhead,aft cabin and both sides of engine space.
Been trying to save enough to hire a finish carpenter but may have to have a go myself.
Your post reads like a how-to book!
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hmmm, wonder if they care to have marine related projects
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Re: Replacing a Rotten Bulkhead - Project Report

Great job, I ended up having a small section of Rot and tried using Git Rot, so far it seems to have done a great job. The bulkhead in my boat goes from the hull up one side, all the way across the ceiling and down the other to form an arched bulkhead. I couldn't bring myself to tear it all out.
I used Penetrating epoxy on about a 5 inch by 12 inch section and it worked really really well. I was surprised at the strength.

Before I did this I kept trying to find others that did and wanted to see before and after results. I just couldn't find that much out there so we decided to film each step of the way and post it on our blog. Maybe it will help others too.

Our blog post with the video embedded - Dreams of that "Last Affair": Using Git-Rot Penetrating Epoxy on a Bulkhead
Using Penetrating Epoxy on Bulkhead - You Tube Video of the work
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