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Old 05-02-2014, 15:00   #1
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Any rough estimate as to costs to remove mast from a Hunter 356 put it on a truck, ship it 300 miles, re-assemble and tune rigging etc?
Just a rough estimate is all I'm after, boat shopping and have to include shipping cost into price of boat if I buy this one. It's in Jax, I need it in Panama City and don't have the time to do it myself
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I figured this a couple of ways.

1. by driving time. It'll take approx. 5 or 6 hours to drive. $100/hr = $600. Add $500 to take down/set up/tune the vessel. Total: $1,100.

2. by driving distance. Depending on the route this will be approx. 275 sm. $2/sm = $550. Add $500 to take down/ set up/tune the vessel. Total: $1,100.

Of course the devil is in the details (who is towing and with what equipment? Will it need flag cars? etc)

You asked for ballpark, you got it.
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Really, I was thinking four or five times that much, boat has a 12' beam, so yes permits,routing, escort etc. I figured lift at both ends being $300 ea?
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You're trying to factor shipping costs to help decide what your offer will be. Do I have that right?

You may be right but I can hardly imagine that $4,000 (3-4 times the amount) would be required to move a boat around 300 miles, rig and tune inclusive.
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Re: shipping costs

Also a marina will charge about $1500 to de-rig. Same at the other end and they won't tune it. You have to tune it yourself and you'll feel better doing it.

It's not just pulling a stick. Rigging, turnbuckles etc, make sure they're all secure, mast should be wrapped and it'll need to be washed at the end of the trip.

The hauling and launch will vary with the yard but I bet it's more than $300. Just check some marinas at the hauling end. They all post prices. Where in JAX is it. I hope it isn't Green Cove Springs.
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Re: shipping costs

I just got a quote for a 34' boat earlier this year. It was more like 200 miles, but was about $3500 all inclusive.
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I just got a quote for a 34' boat earlier this year. It was more like 200 miles, but was about $3500 all inclusive.
What does inclusive mean? Haul, de-rig, transport, launch, rig? Sounds cheap from what I've seen boatyards charging. But I'm in FL.
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Everybody wants their cut it seems. I've taken down and stood up masts several times. The tallest was keel stepped, 95' above deck. While involved it is not difficult. But $1,500 to take it down, secure it for traveling? wow!

Is it tort law to blame for this high pricing? Most assuredly do I perceive this as high.
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Here is the quote. this is from a very experienced mover. It includes everything except travelift and crane time at the origin. Crane time is $90/hour and the travelift is $150. i think one hour would me plenty on the crane to drop the mast. So that is $3275 + $90 + $150 = $3515.



** / coast 240 miles with legal, functional 3-axle keelboat trailer @1.50/mi 360
(waived if another boat <36' / 15KLB power or sail takes me to coast)

Prep mast takedown: Remove/stow boom/mnsl, bimini, BBQ, Lifesling,
other deck gear. Mark turnbuckles, remove safety cotters, lube, loosen.
Unreave/coil up running rigging, marking blocks, organizers, clutches. 2 hrs @ 60 120

Supervise/assist mast takedown for correct placement/cushioning/overhang.
(Mast will ride on deck to make re-rigging easier) Stow all rig parts
and mast head gear (VHF/Windex/wind transducer, etc) Tie down mast 1 hr 75

Supervise/assist loading of boat on trailer with Travelift for correct position/
overhang/tongue weight. Equalize pad loading, lock trailer settings. Tie down
boat to trailer with ratchet straps & carpet pads. Rig oversize-load flags & banners
per TXDOT regs 2 hrs 120

TXDOT oversize load permit (width) 100

Coast / ** 240 miles oversize @ $5/mile 1200

Launch - from immersed trailer (assumes water level not much lower than now) @ 10/ft 340

Moor on cliff (sometimes tricky in lots of breeze) 30

** Crane minimum truck/minimum time 400

Re-rig boat ready to sail 3 hrs 180

Helper - most of a day 200

** Marina facility use fee 150
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3275
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Re: shipping costs

OK, so my gut feeling amy have been correct then.
Yes, I'm trying to determine costs to determine what the boat will cost me.
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Re: shipping costs

Sailing distance 900miles x $2/m+expenses $300 = $2100
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Sailing distance 900miles x $2/m+expenses $300 = $2100

who will do it for that? Only delivery prices I have seen were daily and I think your looking at least ten days, min if wx is good, probably longer?
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I'd do it for that. The proviso is you carry liability and you name me on policy. I'd think you could find an experienced boat owner with not much going on in these winter months. Give him 2 full weeks. I'd provide my own food, you provide all other expenses with maximum cap.
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