Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Engineering & Systems > Construction, Maintenance & Refit
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 29-07-2013, 11:20   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Alameda, CA
Boat: C&C Newport 41
Posts: 586
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

okay...

i am convinced and only a little bit sad ab out it.

-steve
ssanzone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 11:29   #17
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 29,234
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

The other thing is it adds weight. Your boat will perform better without it. Why not put the money into a high quality mainsail?

Ann
__________________
Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 11:50   #18
Registered User
 
Julie Mor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 401
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssanzone View Post
okay...

i am convinced and only a little bit sad about it.

-steve
Group hug

Julie Mor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 12:00   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Novato, California
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 288
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

So down the road when you may have to remove and/or repair this glued on teak deck how much of the top coat is coming off with it?

Currently I'm removing the teak deck on a 1978 Rafiki 37 and a good deal of the top coat get pulled off still glued to the resorcinol with the teak.

I was planning on reglassing the deck so I would make sure there would be no leaks from screw holes, a recommendation from a surveyor, but I had no idea there would be so much collateral damage.

It also gets really hot in the summer so it's hard to walk on barefoot and transfers additional heat to the cabin.
kentobin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 12:07   #20
CF Adviser
 
Bash's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssanzone View Post
without any risk of core damage, what is the real deterrent (besides price)?
The real deterrent, for many of us, seem to be the environmental considerations.
__________________
cruising is entirely about showing up--in boat shoes.
Bash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 12:14   #21
cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

Scoobert and I love teak decks.
Kenomac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 15:37   #22
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,679
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

I love them too! As long as the boat comes with a lifetime maintenance and warranty agreement!
The other thing I dnt understand, if you're a boat builder /designer, why dont you design your boat for teak decks? Why put a cored deck below 3/4" of teak planking? so your boat becomes waterlogged after a few years? Why not just a solid glass deck? Ofcourse the answer is boat builders dont do much with a lot of forethought... other than the next boatshow.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 16:04   #23
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Canada
Boat: CT 56
Posts: 547
Images: 3
Send a message via Skype™ to undercutter
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

What about the safety aspect? Aren't teak decks less slippery?

Maybe I am just trying to justify the teak decks!
undercutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 16:07   #24
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 92
I will agree they are hot. They do offer great traction and can be low maintenance if you don't mind them being gray. Rinse once a week with salt water.

I am sure I'll change my mind when they need to be replaced. ( glued not screwed) hopefully many years from now.
Whaubner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 18:26   #25
Registered User
 
Julie Mor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 401
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
I love them too! As long as the boat comes with a lifetime maintenance and warranty agreement!
The other thing I dnt understand, if you're a boat builder /designer, why dont you design your boat for teak decks? Why put a cored deck below 3/4" of teak planking? so your boat becomes waterlogged after a few years? Why not just a solid glass deck? Ofcourse the answer is boat builders dont do much with a lot of forethought... other than the next boatshow.
Just about all sailors have a special place in their heart for wood on a boat. The more, the better. And along comes some technological revolution like fiberglass and (fill in the blank).

The problem with a solid fiberglass deck is weight. We are trying to combat the forces the wind and waves exert on our boat and sails, so any topside weight that can be reduced gives the boat better righting moment. If you want solid glass decks covered with teak, your boat will become top heavy, comparatively speaking.

Deck cores can be made of balsa or foam. In most situations, foam will absorb less moisture. But it's usually more expensive. Still, foam does not guarantee there will be no water absorption in the core. But attention to the build will reduce it. However, no builder can protect their boats from the ignorance of the DIY owner or the self proclaimed expert.
Julie Mor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 18:39   #26
cruiser

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

yes do it. if you have the coin.
it HAS to be screwed. just screw it correctly, and you will have no issue. each screw will need sealer, you will need to keep it well oiled. really it is worth it. you can also mix teak and rosewood!
scoobert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 18:45   #27
Registered User
 
Capt Phil's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,874
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

I recall delivering a brand new powerboat around 85-90 feet several years ago that had a fake teak deck laid down in sections over fiberglass. No screw holes, no leaks (mind you, it was a brand new boat!) and relatively non-skid. I commented to the broker about the deck and he told me it was a brand new material that he felt would replace teak within a few years just on a cost and environmental basis alone. That was about 10 years ago so I don't remember the name of the product. Phil
Capt Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 18:50   #28
Registered User
 
Capt Phil's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,874
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

One of the oddest applications of teak I ever saw was on a Hans Christian 33 deck. Beautifully laid without a screw hole in sight. On closer inspection, you could see the bottom of the screw poking through here and there where the deck had been sanded down. The entire deck was screwed from the bottom, from under the headliner so to remove the deck firtst required removing the headliner. Talk about a big job!! Good luck with that one... Phil
Capt Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 18:57   #29
Registered User
 
MARC D's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Boat: Shopping...
Posts: 309
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

I have teak deck and love it! And the builder is very clear: no oiling, no scrubbing, no nothing except water rinse if you are in the mood. Right after a sail, you can walk (barefoot) and you won't have salt under your feet. And teak deck are drying without salt stain as well.
Virtually maintenance free.
Best traction.
Last year in Grenada, I was tied next to an Island Packet, we could bear the heat walking on my pale grayish teak but it was absolutely impossible on my friend's yellow IP.

And I have to say that I am totally in love with the look!!!

Marc
__________________
Sur le même bateau, l'homme de terre et l'homme de mer ont deux buts différents. Le but du premier est d'arriver, le but du deuxième est de repartir.
La terre nous tire vers le passé, la mer les pousse vers le futur.- Albert Londres, 1927
MARC D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2013, 19:10   #30
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Alameda, CA
Boat: C&C Newport 41
Posts: 586
Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

this is getting more difficult.

-steve
ssanzone is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
De-greying teak?! VirtualVagabond Construction, Maintenance & Refit 106 20-05-2020 05:49
How to Make New Teak Look Old? skipmac Construction, Maintenance & Refit 47 26-04-2013 07:07
question for the teak and deck gurus RLewis Construction, Maintenance & Refit 31 20-07-2012 09:51
Teak Maintenance Acedude Construction, Maintenance & Refit 38 10-06-2012 06:03
Removal of Bavaria Teak Plywood Decks Stream Spirits Construction, Maintenance & Refit 7 05-03-2012 07:48

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:34.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.