Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Engineering & Systems > Construction, Maintenance & Refit
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-11-2022, 01:37   #16
Registered User
 
Chotu's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 11,832
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by goboatingnow View Post
I now standardise on one battery powered tool set. In fact I have bought several compatible lithium adaptors so I can use the same 18b tool batteries in my dinghy pump and other portable devices devices. My vacuum cleaner uses the same batteries

At the last count , drill , jigsaw , router , buffer , angle grinder , circular saw , heat gun , vacumn , dinghy pump , lab power supply all
Using the same lithium tool battery
That is not an easy thing to organize. Very impressive actually.

I get around this problem another way. I use the boat’s inverter and house bank to power everything.
Chotu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 04:34   #17
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: Jeanneau SO 389
Posts: 1,969
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

A puller seems to always miss the lists. Forgive me if someone mentioned them.
They are heavy and pack away.
About 30 years ago my wife and I started carrying Bocci balls. We consider them essential friend making tools. We also notice hundreds of boats today also carry them. They are darn heavy but necessary. Technically we play commando bocci so no court. One year we waxed the womens balls while they were getting drinks during the finals tournament. Don’t do this to the womens balls we lost.

Dremel tool is a zillion tools in one. Soldering gun. I have both in a plastic tub.
My boat has a funky door in the washroom first thing inside is drawers with tools.
Even the dinghy needs a spark plug wrench a spar spark plug, patch kit, why we love seat bags.

Really good sealing tape, Lexel chalk, in the boat first aid kit. In an old power boat I had rewired I left a 50 foot length of wire stashed in the anchor locker. We came across another boat adrift which had been hit by lightning.
We donated a battery and that 50’ piece of wire and limped into Collingwood with them. You just never know do you.

Could be a three hour cruise and the weather started getting rough…
Rumrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 04:50   #18
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
Boat: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Posts: 6,658
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

I try to carry the tools I truly need, but skip many of the nice to haves. So a decent set of wrenches, hex keys, sockets, screwdrivers, etc. I do carry a corded drill aboard as well, but that's about it for power tools. There's also the stuff like a hammer, big (but lightweight) pipe wrench, stuffing box packing wrench, packing extractor, carb adjustment tool, and assorted stuff that's collected in the toolbox. Total weight is probably under 100 lbs for me.

If we were traveling full time far from home, there's some extra stuff I'd probably bring along. But for stuff I only need when the boat is on land or for a pre-planned project (such as tools to change a prop), I leave those at home. In general, getting along with mostly hand tools on the boat helps a lot with keeping the toolbox size reasonable.


For power tools that live on the boat, I stick with corded. For the most part, they get used too infrequently, plus I can easily run an extension cord to any part of the boat. That said, for pre-planned work I do sometimes bring cordless tools from home for convenience.
rslifkin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 05:02   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: Jeanneau SO 389
Posts: 1,969
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

The new cordless tools are impressive. My coolest boating tool for an old fart is land locked but you’ll see them in several clubs and manufactures like Hinckley a 3D printer. This silly thing printed in ASA or PC protects my lines rafting or strange peer. A new tool!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	5214F10F-E3A9-4B0A-B5FF-B01E91163464.jpg
Views:	116
Size:	381.4 KB
ID:	266997  
Rumrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 05:14   #20
Writing Full-Time Since 2014
 
thinwater's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: PDQ Altair, 32/34
Posts: 9,878
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

The OP's point was, as he predicted, broadly ignored. All he needs, and all most sailors need, is a get-home tool kit. Enough to jury rig some sails, steering, and perhaps get a balky motor running for a short period, but they are not going to maintain anything or repair anything major. They will do that after they get home.


So all you need are:
  • A knife, of course.
  • Duct tape, electrical/rigging tape, athletic tape, sail repair tape, and some rigging wire (also serves as splicing fid).
  • Sewing kit, including palm and whipping twine.
  • A few things to fix broken wiring. A few connectors (wire nuts will work, but Wagos are better for this), a cutters and perhaps strippers, and some bit of wire. Fuses if applicable.
  • Parts to fix fuel connections. Some hose, a few clamps, and maybe some metal tubing.
  • A few simple wrenches, pliers, vice grips, and fresh sparks.
  • Some cord and rope, a few carabiners, and maybe a few pulleys. some shackles. Combined with the sewing kit you should be able to sail.
The get-home kit for my F-24 fits in a large, multi-compartment travel toiletries bag. In my car I have a heavy travel tool pack, and my home shop includes welding, many fixed power tools, two lathes, and a lot of ... stuff. But my get-home kit is small, focused on fixing only the things I need to fix to get into the slip. I've pared it down--it was larger when I fist bough the the boat.


The kit on my cruising boat (PDQ) was larger, but that is not what the OP asked.
__________________
Gear Testing--Engineering--Sailing
https://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/
thinwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 07:14   #21
Registered User
 
TheOffice's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Annapolis
Boat: Hylas 49
Posts: 1,130
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

I sail offshore. I also have the Klein screwdrivers. They're great, but they eventually corrode! I also carry a dremel, cordless drill, angle grinder. Lots of pliers, hacksaw for cutting large hose, hose cutter, hose removal tool. Crimpers, multimeter. I use 2 canvas bags. One has wrenches and pliers, one has everything else, plus small cloth bags for sockets sets and a wrench roll.
TheOffice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 07:30   #22
JBP
Registered User
 
JBP's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lake Erie, PA
Boat: Jeanneau Tonic 23
Posts: 544
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

An oscillating multi-tool can tolerably replace a sander, an angle grinder, a hack saw, a jig saw, a circular saw, scrapers and probably a lot more. That and a cordless drill are probably the only power tools I NEED. Sure other tools might make the job easier, but I get get it done without them.
JBP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 07:34   #23
Moderator
 
Jammer's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Tartan 3800
Posts: 5,201
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by carstenb View Post

A heavy duty cable crimper for crimping up to 50mm? yep, I used it

A big, heavy tool. 50mm? Really? A typo perhaps.


While I would agree that crimiping is the superior approach, solder cup lugs applied with solder slugs and a torch are good enough in many cases -- and much lighter and smaller.
__________________
The best part of an adventure is the people you meet.
Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 07:39   #24
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
Boat: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Posts: 6,658
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

I keep small crimpers aboard, but it's unlikely I'll need to re-crimp large battery cables on the fly. So those crimpers stay at home.
rslifkin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 07:44   #25
Moderator
 
Jammer's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Tartan 3800
Posts: 5,201
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by disputin View Post
One note about the Klein multi-tool (which I am a big fan). Look around your boat for screws that are deep set in a narrow hole. While the multi-tool can replace a lot of screwdrivers, having one or 2 regular screw drivers is well worth it. Several times I've grabbed the multi only to find out I can't get to the screw head and had to use a traditional screwdriver.

I have run into this also. The Xcelite 99 series multi-screwdriver was one of the few multi-screwdrivers that gets around this (though the use of long blades that interchange in the handle). Those are still available but with a limited selection of blades.


Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOffice View Post
I sail offshore. I also have the Klein screwdrivers. They're great, but they eventually corrode!

I have run into this too. The ball springs in the bits, especially, tend to corrode.


Quote:
Originally Posted by thinwater View Post
The OP's point was, as he predicted, broadly ignored. All he needs, and all most sailors need, is a get-home tool kit. Enough to jury rig some sails, steering, and perhaps get a balky motor running for a short period, but they are not going to maintain anything or repair anything major. They will do that after they get home.

I'm also trying to have a baseline toolset such that, when I bring tools from shore for a particular project, I don't have to bring many.
__________________
The best part of an adventure is the people you meet.
Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 08:22   #26
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: Jeanneau SO 389
Posts: 1,969
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

Heck I read the OP wanted more discussion not lists my bad.
I hate lists.
Rumrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 08:27   #27
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: Jeanneau SO 389
Posts: 1,969
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

“ Tools threads tend to degenerate into people posting lists of tools without much discussion. Please try not to do that here.”

I did the old school cut n paste.
So part of contribution is making tools for my boat like a water fill which fits European threads so I don’t stand there with a cut off hose.
Or an emoji Poop floating key I printed for the pump out key.
Not everything has to go on excel.
Rumrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2022, 08:38   #28
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: Jeanneau SO 389
Posts: 1,969
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

A must have when electronics need love.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	316A70F4-7FC1-4AA6-A03F-81FCF161FAE4.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	425.8 KB
ID:	267044  
Rumrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2022, 05:00   #29
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Jan 2019
Boat: Beneteau 432, C&C Landfall 42, Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 6,714
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

I have a home made prop puller in my kit. It goes completely contrary to this thread, as it it is neither light nor small.
Say what you want, but no long distance sailor should be without this device. It's heavy and cumbersome for sure, but worth it's weight in gold. It lives in the bilge in it's own greased bag, so is not a detriment to space, so there is that.
MicHughV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2022, 05:09   #30
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Rochester, NY
Boat: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Posts: 6,658
Re: Tools aboard: Minimizing space and weight

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicHughV View Post
I have a home made prop puller in my kit. It goes completely contrary to this thread, as it it is neither light nor small.
Say what you want, but no long distance sailor should be without this device. It's heavy and cumbersome for sure, but worth it's weight in gold. It lives in the bilge in it's own greased bag, so is not a detriment to space, so there is that.

I periodically debate carrying my spare props, prop puller and appropriate huge wrenches on the boat. But it's a good 80 lbs of stuff and takes up a ton of space. I might bring them if traveling somewhere really remote for a while, but otherwise, I keep the stuff all next to each other in the garage at home.



I'm not a diver, so there's no way I can change a 30+ lb prop in the water myself. Which means I need outside help anyway, either a diver or a haulout. So I'm going to lose some time to arranging that. Which means it's not that big a deal to have someone ship me the props (and tools if needed).
rslifkin is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minimizing stretch along Main's halyard TheThunderbird Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 23 17-08-2016 14:59
Minimizing Canadian Import Duty Jd1 General Sailing Forum 15 16-06-2016 10:20
Cordless tools vs. Corded Tools + Generator sully75 Construction, Maintenance & Refit 45 13-07-2014 05:16
Volvo MD2 weight vs Md6a weight. gjordan Engines and Propulsion Systems 2 05-07-2012 23:23

Advertise Here
  Vendor Spotlight
No Threads to Display.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:59.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.