Warning about Suncor Mechanical Fittings

[cburger]

Originally Posted by witzgall

using goop on Norseman fittings may in fact be the best course of action, even if that is not what the manufacturer recommends (I have no idea). If does not then mean that is true for other fittings. They are all of different designs and it would be foolish to make the assumption that what works for one is best for the others.

A talk with a manufacturers rep would be a good idea if there is any doubt in anyone's mind as to the correct assembly method.


Chris

Noresman, Staylok and HiMod are all actually the same type of fitting. One of the original Norseman engineers went on to found Staylok, blocks of 316 stainless and some cones or wedges inside. I never advocated putting goop in all fittings just that Norseman does and I do.

Once again the original intent of this post was to make the members who are using Suncor's Quick Attach fittings aware of a potentially very dangerous safety issue.

[cburger]

Spoke with a rep a Suncor and they have indicated that they will reimburse me for the cost of the fittings. Great customer service.

[Daphnis]

3/16" rigging on a 19' boat? Maybe they meant 29' or 39'.

[Maine Sail]

Originally Posted by cburger

Spoke with a rep a Suncor and they have indicated that they will reimburse me for the cost of the fittings. Great customer service.

I heard from Suncor's head of engineering today and was told that their swageless fittings are as strong as the wire and perfectly safe to use for standing rigging on sailboats. Apparently the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing at Suncor.....

[Daphnis]

Go figure! I think it was "Practical sailor" a few years ago who did a failure test on them as well as Stalock and Norseman.
Quick-attach was the strongest, 2nd Stalock and 3rd Norseman.

[jimthom]

Was it Suncor or was it Blue Wave being tested by Practical Sailor? Here is a copy of the email and reply I sent to Blue Wave:

Dear Sir;

I plan to buy the Suncor branded Blue Wave quick attach fitting for my 42' ketch. They have a warning that they are not recommended for use on standing rigging for yachts over 19'. Since they are made under license to the same specifications as Blue Wave quick attach fittings, I find this puzzling, as you make no such recommendation. Can you confirm that your quick attach fitting are suitable for use with standing rigging on larger yachts, and that Suncor make their fittings to the same standard as Blue Wave?
Thank you,Jim Thom

Reply from Blue Wave:
Thank you for your E-mail, I can confirm that our Blue Wave swageless fittings are suitable for use with standing rigging and meet the break loads stated in our material/catalogues.We even have a Lloyds approval for this!

Having said this, I find it puzzling that you have the information, that the quick attach fittings by Suncor are made under a license from us, this information is not right. He then went on to say that only Blue Wave in Denmark produce the Blue Wave fittings - anything else is a copy.

jimthom

[svHyLyte]

Originally Posted by cburger

Here you go:

Product Information & Support

The from the link reference above, one needs click on "Quick Attach Information" to see the limitation for Permanent Standing Rigging.

[Ocean Girl]

Curiouser and curiouser.
Thanks for posting this!