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Old 24-03-2018, 11:44   #1
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Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

Ok, here's the situation. I'm slowly working may way around different deck fittings and pulling/cleaning/rebidding them as needed. Came across the Deck Waste fitting as I'm also re-doing the head hoses and such.

There is a void. I have a Cape Dory with balsa cored decks and it looks like there was some rot that someone may have dug out but did NOT fill back with anything. The decks are built thick but I had noticed this spot was a little soft and now I know why.

I can reach in with a stiff wire and find what feels like "good" balsa, i.e., not soft or crumbly. It's not a large area, maybe the size of my hand.

So my question is - would the "Foam in a Can" stuff be ok ? Or would you mix up some thickened epoxy ? I feel like the foam will do a better job of filling the space, but would not be as strong as epoxy of course. But then again, neither was the balsa !

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Old 24-03-2018, 11:49   #2
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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

Use thickened epoxy to create a hard spot.
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Old 24-03-2018, 12:50   #3
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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

Yah no, great stuff is not heavy duty.

There are pourable urethane foams that come in high density ratings but it's hard to work with, exacting measurement, limited temp range, hard to deal with overflow expansion.
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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

I knew in my heart it wasn't the answer. I was just looking for that big red EASY button !

I went with the thickened epoxy. I may not have filled every spot in there but I got more in than I thought I could.

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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

Look on the WEST website for the lowest density filler you can, I think it is the white microballoons. It is amazing how much you can load these up. Also easy to fair back.
Or find a small piece of divynicel and cut it to fit if you have room.
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That should go well with my cranky old Johnson 2hp Seahorse !!!!

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Great stuff would not work but what a great product if there was Expandable filler epoxy in an aerosol can.
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Look on the WEST website for the lowest density filler you can...
No. For creating a hard spot use high density filler. Low density is for fairing.
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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

That's what I thought! This stuff

http://www.uscomposites.com/foam.html

comes in up to 16lb per cu ft, should be much tougher that e.g. divinycell

What say you hive mind? Given caveats above, need practice first, can really make a mess if you pour/inject too much.
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That should go well with my cranky old Johnson 2hp Seahorse !!!!

Thank you!!!

Hadn't heard Seahorse in years. That dates back to the days that 25 HP was top of the line.
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Hey I got a Ted Johnson 4 horse bought it about 45 yrs ago at Sears still works great
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Ted Johnson? We may be talking apples and oranges. I though Sears sold Elgins back then not OMC engines. I think in latter years they sold Force a Mercury low end.
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Re: Would "Great Stuff" Foam work for this....?

FWIW, I got back down to the boat today after stuffing all the thickened epoxy I could into the void. Best I can say is it did ok. I can tell I didn't get the whole void filled because when I knock on it I can hear the differences. BUT, it did firm up the spot quite a bit, to the point where I can only tell because I'm looking for it. And of course it is sealed and the new fitting is well bedded with silicone.

So, I'm going to call it a success.
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