Australian AMSA registered boat, which State registration to complement it?

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Factor

Australian Rego cannot negate the individual state rego requirements.

Not too sure about that. Ships don't need state registration. There's usually a story or two floating around in Qld of boat owners with Aus registration not registering their boat in the state (any state) and the state, despite many threats, being unable to enforce the registration requirement.


Of course if you want to enter a marina, you need insurance and insurance will want state rego and in Qld if you want a mooring, state registration is a specific condition of being granted a lease.


Best to find a mate that lives in the NT with an address you can use and grab a driver's license for proof of residence.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by GILow

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Once I leave South Australia I will have no land base, and I suppose I'll ask one of a my friends or family to serve as an impromptu mailbox for those few little bits of paperwork that still seem to insist that you must have house on dry land somewhere otherwise you don't actually exist and must be a figment of your own imagination.

We spent a bit of time getting everything sent to us electronically.
Australia post also has this option for FREE which we has been using for 3 years.

https://auspost.com.au/receiving/alt...for-deliveries

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by Ashed

There are also other state laws, for example, If a boat is in Qld for longer than 3 months (I think) it must be registered in Qld.

If you were doing a slow cirmnavagion you may have to keep re-registering in every state (if you stay too long)

The interesting thing is I believe that one needs a Qld address in order to register a boat in Qld.

[Oceanride007]

^^^^
Not true, I'm a Q'land registered boat, renewed a couple of times, no problem with Victorian Address. Hey Matt you need a physical address for your Drivers Licence, Medicare can be funny.

[Allied39]

One trick with the 6 hp rego issue would be to pop a 4hp decal on the motor.

I did that a couple of decades ago on an XT 500 motorbike. Could only ride a 250 on a learner licence.
I got pulled over by the "roadside tax collector" and he didn't notice.... to busy writing the ticket for no "L " plate.

A moot point though if you are upgrading to a ten...not likely they're that dense.......maybe though.

[HankOnthewater]

Originally Posted by Ashed

There are also other state laws, for example, If a boat is in Qld for longer than 3 months (I think) it must be registered in Qld.
If you were doing a slow cirmnavagion you may have to keep re-registering in every state (if you stay too long)

Same for WA, you get 3 months here or in some cases 30 days, read this (copied from website): Boats currently registered in another state receive a three month period of grace after first being used in Western Australia waters. Vessels entering from the Northern Territory have 30 days. After this period of grace the vessel must be registered with Department of Transport.
For the full information on WA, see this link: https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/imar...gistration.asp

BTW, if you were to register in WA and to leave before the full year is up, you can cancel the registration and the fee will be re-funded pro-rata. Absolutely no hassle.

And also read this (italics is for text that is copied):
A foreign pleasure vessel is a registrable vessel which is owned by a person who is not resident of Western Australia (WA) and is temporarily within WA navigable waters. It does not include a registered interstate pleasure vessel. If the vessel remains in WA navigable waters for a period greater than 30 days the vessel must to registered with the Department of Transport as a Foreign Pleasure vessel.
Cost for this is a $26 fixed fee plus $19 for a boat between 10 and 20 mt.

And as for dinghies (again, copied from the DoT website):
Recreational vessels not requiring registration:
- Sailing vessels that cannot carry a motor.
- Canoes, surf skis and other craft without motors.
- Tender vessels no more than 3.1 metres long.
- With a motor not bigger than 5hp (3.73 kW).
- Used only as a lifeboat and for ship to shore transport, and for no other purpose.
- Displaying the registration number of the parent vessel.

All the above only applies to WA (West Australia), and no, having Australian registration (shipping register) does not change that WA state registration obligation.

[Frugal]

Adams 42 (12.6 m) mast head sloop, Annual Registration:-
West Australia $516.20.
Tasmania $94.80.


To change port of registration:- Australian Maritime Safety Authority.
Once off $111.00


Queensland requires local registration if in Qld. waters longer than three months.
Needs a Qld. address. Administration inept and diabolical.


Northern Territory, no registration required but it means you have an unregistered vessel in any other state.


Cheers and happy sailing.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Frugal

Adams 42 (12.6 m) mast head sloop, Annual Registration:-
West Australia $516.20.
Tasmania $94.80.


To change port of registration:- Australian Maritime Safety Authority.
Once off $111.00


Queensland requires local registration if in Qld. waters longer than three months.
Needs a Qld. address. Administration inept and diabolical.


Northern Territory, no registration required but it means you have an unregistered vessel in any other state.


Cheers and happy sailing.

But note that "Port of Registration" ("Home Port") does not have to be the same as "State of Registration". You don't have to change it every time you move interstate.

[peter57]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

NT doesn't have boat rego or even licenses.

The trouble is, some maritime officers or water police won't accept "I'm legal for the NT" in say, NSW. I tried it with dinghy rego, which we didn't need in Qld.

The maritime guy said we either had to register the dinghy or get a smaller (or no) motor.

Of course some people do get away with it for years.

Does that mean NT yachties have to register their tender for two weeks as they are passing through to Tassie?

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by peter57

Does that mean NT yachties have to register their tender for two weeks as they are passing through to Tassie?

No, they can row it.

Best bet is to google the relevant state authorities and check the rules.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by peter57

Does that mean NT yachties have to register their tender for two weeks as they are passing through to Tassie?

Recreational boats with valid interstate or overseas registration can operate in Queensland:

• for up to 1 year if the boat has current registration from a foreign country
• while on interstate voyages if the boat has current registration from another state or territory.

So theoretically, you need to register both your NT boat and tender in Qld as soon as you enter Qld waters


Then there is the requirement for a valid Marine Licence. But I've never been asked for one when visiting Qld


https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/boating/recreational

[elandra65]

You will find most states require registration even if you are a registered Australian ship. However I know someone who has evaded state rego for years claiming they don't intend to stay in the state they are in. Their home port is in another state though which helps.

[peter57]

Originally Posted by Factor

Australian Rego cannot negate the individual state rego requirements.

So If you are circumnavigating around Aust. from Darwin do have to rego in every state or just one for a week or two?

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by peter57

So If you are circumnavigating around Aust. from Darwin do have to rego in every state or just one for a week or two?

This has been covered. You need to be registered in a state that actually has rego. Then you can stay in other states for up to 90 days. (Tasmania doesnt requireTas rego unless you're going to live there.)

To be honest from what Ive seen, the authorities seem to be more interested in the rego status of your dnghy than the big boat.

And there are people who have gotten away with not being properly registered for years. Friends of ours had their Tassie registered boat in a Qld marina, directly in view of the local water police boat, for at least 5 years with no hassles.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by Frugal

Adams 42 (12.6 m) mast head sloop, Annual Registration:-

Tasmania $94.80.

Now THAT is a good price. What an appropriate CF username.