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captain58sailin · 03-08-2009, 09:07

Randy,
I carry a kilo because that is the size of the package I got on ebay, + I hate to run out of the stuff I like, hence a 5 gallon bucket of soy sauce. Mind you I also use it in my fish smoking recipes. Also I do commercial fish so I probably fare a little better than the average sailor.
As far as catching salmon underway goes, I would recommend using a pink lady and a flasher on the line, the depth is controlled by how much line you let out. I have caught salmon on tuna jigs with nothing else just sailing along and dragging it behind the boat.

GeoPowers · 03-08-2009, 20:28

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Originally Posted by captain58sailin

As far as catching salmon underway goes, I would recommend using a pink lady and a flasher on the line, the depth is controlled by how much line you let out. I have caught salmon on tuna jigs with nothing else just sailing along and dragging it behind the boat.

Yeah, that's the rig I'm using right now, along with some local lures. Do you go lures or bait with the flasher? We'll see if it works! I was also thinking about a surface lure like you said- maybe as a handline only.. . thanks!

Curmudgeon · 04-08-2009, 05:39

I use a silver Yo Zuri Hydro Magnum for just about everything. I bet it will catch salmon too.

captain58sailin · 04-08-2009, 09:47

I have caught salmon on the feathered tuna jigs, & a myriad of other lures, which leads me to believe that if there is something in the water that catches the fishes attention they will strike it. I bought a new jig called a "wounded herring" and was using it in Africa on a hand line and caught a 4' tuna that was last month. I have always been a believer in natural baits, they make a critter called a herring harness that works and a trick the commercial trollers use is making a needle out of a piece of small diameter brazing rod about 8" long, sharpen one end and take a hammer and flatten a small bit of the other end and cut a slot or drill a hole in it. Then take a leader with a treble hook on the end and using the needle run it up through the herring and out the mouth and take a half hitch around the nose of the herring and tie it on to the rig. If you should happen into a cove where the salmon are you can use a mooching rig, which is two hooks on the same leader and the one closest to the bitter end slides, hook the back hook in the back of the herring and the front hook goes behind the head, using a 1 or 2 oz banana weight, you throw it over the side and let it float down and then retrieve in long jerking motions, not too fast.

GeoPowers · 04-08-2009, 21:18

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Originally Posted by captain58sailin

I have caught salmon on the feathered tuna jigs, & a myriad of other lures, which leads me to believe that if there is something in the water that catches the fishes attention they will strike it. I bought a new jig called a "wounded herring" and was using it in Africa on a hand line and caught a 4' tuna that was last month. I have always been a believer in natural baits, they make a critter called a herring harness that works and a trick the commercial trollers use is making a needle out of a piece of small diameter brazing rod about 8" long, sharpen one end and take a hammer and flatten a small bit of the other end and cut a slot or drill a hole in it. Then take a leader with a treble hook on the end and using the needle run it up through the herring and out the mouth and take a half hitch around the nose of the herring and tie it on to the rig. If you should happen into a cove where the salmon are you can use a mooching rig, which is two hooks on the same leader and the one closest to the bitter end slides, hook the back hook in the back of the herring and the front hook goes behind the head, using a 1 or 2 oz banana weight, you throw it over the side and let it float down and then retrieve in long jerking motions, not too fast.

Exactly the info I was looking for...thanks a lot!!

Haven't tried mooching yet, but got the setup for it ready- can't wait.

cat man do · 04-08-2009, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Bash

Catching fish is the sign of a slow boat.

Really?

I would say that every fish I have caught trolling was at over 6 knots

Have had them on the chew at times where we couldn't even get the line fully out before getting hit.

Almost every fish (over 1000lb of them) we got on this trip was at 8 knots .

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...94&postcount=4

Even had hookups (and landed) when up in the mid teens under sail

George Wade · 05-08-2009, 06:06

Cat man do, the fish that you are catching like fast bait. Only when they are very small do they slow down a bit. We did very well from a liberty ship trading in the Pacific at 8 knots.

The salmon we catch in the northern waters mostly seem to like slow bait: even drifting.

captain58sailin · 05-08-2009, 08:50

Enjoy Geo, we sat in a cove with 15 anglers using those mooching rigs and caught 75 Cohos in an afternoon, the fish seemed to be circling around and every time they came under the boat everyone would hook up. Of course a key factor is, the fish have to be there. The tide change can also change the feeding habits, I have watched in a tidal pool where a bunch of salmon were, and they would not take anything, and right when the tide turned and started going out, they came to life and ate everything.

George Wade · 05-08-2009, 09:05

5 coho + 5 beer per angler.

zeehag · 05-08-2009, 09:07

fishing from a slow boat is not a bad thing nor is catching only that which the crew is able to eat in one day.....i prefer to do it that way!!!LOL~~~~~_/)~~~~~~

GeoPowers · 22-08-2009, 20:55

...so we could "sail-troll" 1.5-2 kts fishing for salmon today.

There were a few other sailboats out there, but we were the only ones sailing downwind fishing. We motored upwind just out of respect for the other fishers so they wouldn't have to deal with a tacking sailboat going through the fishing grounds. Thanks for the advice, it paid off. We ended up limiting on pink salmon today, my first saltwater salmon catches ever! They say that anyone can catch pink salmon, so I'm glad I did, too!

P.S. The first fish we hooked was a medium sized king on my small rod w/8 lb test!! That was the most exciting one of the day, but he got away about 5 feet from the boat.

P.P.S. I'm surprised it took this long for a "big one that got away" story to come up!

MarkJ · 22-08-2009, 21:35

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We have sailed for 14,000 nms and have caught 4 fish.... thats one fish per 6,000 kilometers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark

Update: We have done another 2,000nms and still no more fish

Mind you, this is asia and I am not sure I would want to eat anything out of this water....

zeehag · 23-08-2009, 07:01

icould have told you all about the ones that got away and the rods i broke on them but i didnt wanna worry you all about being able to catch the fishies----lol--donot let them get under the boat!!!!if they do--they are GONE!!!!!!