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Old 30-12-2016, 09:43   #1
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What became of the Mayflower?

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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

Sounds apocryphal to me, or simply a tall tale.

Claiming the "find" of the cracked beam matches the description of a similar cracked beam in the Mayflower story, and offering that as proof of identity, seems like a stretch to me, as I would expect many beams of large ships or buildings could show cracks.

At least he did not claim the wood was from the True Cross.
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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

And there must have been hundreds and hundreds of ships that size/era.

But I have gazed up at the underside of old post and beam structures and seen the similarity to old ship construction.
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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

Saw the Maritime museum in London in June. They had quite a few cutaway models displayed and the engineering for the time was really remarkable.

Then you see the "Cutty Sark" up close and personal, impressive as hell...


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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

“... Departing on 6 September 1620, the ship (Mayflower) was at sea for 66 days, arriving November 9. The ship and crew overwintered with the Pilgrims and departed back for England on 5 April 1621, arriving back to England on May 6.

Christopher Jones took the ship out for a few more trading runs, but he died a couple of years later in March 1621/2. The ship was appraised for probate purposes in May 1624, and was referred to as being "in ruins." It was only valued at 128 pounds sterling, and was almost certainly broken up and sold off as scrap.”

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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

I read somewhere that if all the people who claimed to have descended from somebody on the Mayflower were telling the truth then that ship would have had about 55,000 people on board.
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Sounds apocryphal to me, or simply a tall tale.

Claiming the "find" of the cracked beam matches the description of a similar cracked beam in the Mayflower story, and offering that as proof of identity, seems like a stretch to me, as I would expect many beams of large ships or buildings could show cracks.

At least he did not claim the wood was from the True Cross.
Good point, it always amazes me the stories we believe and tell each other, they all contain the same ingredients. ..no evidence whatsoever.
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I read somewhere that if all the people who claimed to have descended from somebody on the Mayflower were telling the truth then that ship would have had about 55,000 people on board.
Not really.
102 passengers arrived on the Mayflower in 1620. Today, tens of millions of Americans have at least one ancestor who was among this group of early settlers.
https://www.themayflowersociety.org/
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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

I have always found this interesting
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn.../#.WGfG2ss8KfA
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[QUOTE=a64pilot;2291112]I have always found this interesting
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression[/QUOT

Was indeed an excellent read, thanks, R
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Re: What became of the Mayflower?

The OP's report is based on early 20th century research by someone who appears to have owned the barn. Is there a conflict of interest there? Would tree-ring-dating be a better way to determine the age and provenance of the wood? Is the wood at all salty? Is there a bill of sale for the Mayflower's hulk that Harvey doesn't mention? The timbers also look pretty straight compared to some I've seen. Perhaps the HAR doesn't refer to Harwich, as Harvey suggests, but to a local farmer, perhaps named Henry Arthur Robinson, who cut down the trees? Not much to go on here, but a nice story.
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