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Old 18-05-2019, 14:58   #181
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Re: Plan? No Plan? A plan written on beach sand?

Part of my training was the masters in psychology.. I kinda resonate with this one.

On that basis, plans need to be flexible coz stuff happens.........
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Plans never service reality. But planning is never a waste of time.

You do need to set a departure date but ultimately flexibility is the norm.
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Old 18-05-2019, 15:33   #183
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I’ve long viewed the search for “meaning” or “purpose” in life as one big psychological wild goose chase or fool's errand. There is no meaning to be had out there. The Universe doesn’t give us a purpose.
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A zygote is a gamete’s way of producing more gamete’s. This may be the purpose of the universe.
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Old 18-05-2019, 15:59   #185
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Yes, I guess I should say there is no purpose other than reproduction and probation of our genes. The rest is up to us.

My view is, Life Is. The rest is up to me (and you).
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Old 18-05-2019, 18:05   #186
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Its what I love about the forum... Generally upbeat and positive people. doing or "planing" to do what they enjoy on the water.

One caution for us though
If you keep patting yourself on the back, their is a tendency to walk around in circles!
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I try to avoid this tendency, I completely understand that almost all of my good fortune has had another person's hand beside mine . I also never get good fortune confused with money, often my good fortune is just meeting someone who later becomes a friend. I lost my best friend of over 50 years not that long ago and on reflection I really never really knew just how much value he brought to my life. When our lives are reaching the end the thing we value most are wonderful relationships.
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Yes, I guess I should say there is no purpose other than reproduction and probation of our genes. The rest is up to us.

My view is, Life Is. The rest is up to me (and you).
I like this one..
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Picture...s%2C495&sr=8-1

Even if the only place in the universe where any kind of value judgments take place is an illusion created in the brains of some rather aggressive and destructive apes it still feels very real to each of us....
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Re: Plan? No Plan? A plan written on beach sand?

I am careful to differentiate the life process, birth, living dying, from the spiritual and personal evaluations of what is all for.

I am with Einstein that observation of the process, the universe, atoms, etc... would indicate that there is a single creative force behind it.

Others do not subscribe to this viewpoint.

The reality is that we all co-exist in this world and have to travel our path in the manner that we can live with.

After being involved with medicine for more years than I can believe, I have come to the conclusion that life itself, the physiological existence, is predicated upon genetics, some self-health care and a measure of good luck in keeping out of the way of buses and bullets.

I see that it is easy, very easy to become a prisoner of the clock. We use the measurement of time to plan our lives, sometimes is a good thing and sometimes its a pain.

To enjoy life, when we have a choice, is to ... enjoy life. Any plan I make is based around, necessities, family requirements and direction.

You don't need heaps of money to travel. You don't need a high spec boat. You don't need a rigid timetable to enjoy boating. If you set your sights high, or in a financial class above your pocket, you will be striving to meet the financials and miss out on the reason why you wanted to travel in the first place.

In my understanding of life, this is the only one we know. Ergo, if we are somewhere beautiful, and we want to examine it for longer, then do so. There may be more beautiful places, but at that moment, whatever it is that pleases us to look further, is what we know and can feel and enjoy.

I also know that each of us gets exactly the same amount of time as Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, and its what we choose to do with it and how we make value judgements and evaluations on what is important. We fill our life with choices, and in the end, we all face the same eventuality.

when the day comes when our organism fails, we must realise that it was impossible to see everything in a short few years.... but can we say what we did see and experience and the friendships we made, can we say it was good.
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I really don’t care what other people do or think, but I personally.... would like to see more than just a few more anchorages during the years I have remaining, and prefer to work a little more at a rewarding profession so that I don’t have to worry every day about where my next dollar is coming from.... so that I can then go out and buy some cheap beer or repair my boat if something breaks.

BTW: The beer over here in the Med is cheap (43 cents) and tastes great.
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“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.” ~ Douglas Adams
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Re: Plan? No Plan? A plan written on beach sand?

Ah, Trillian’s mice ...
According to "Deep Thought", the ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is 42.

The very first computer (about 6,000 years ago) tried to answer THE QUESTION. It was an Apple, with limited memory, just one byte and everything crashed.
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Ah, Trillian’s mice ...
According to "Deep Thought", the ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is 42.

The very first computer (about 6,000 years ago) tried to answer THE QUESTION. It was an Apple, with limited memory, just one byte and everything crashed.
That 6000 year statement is going to give you grief, hahahahaha
The rest is great, Hahaha
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What’s clear is, as homo sapiens, we all plan — make plans. Our brains (and/or our pshycology) seems hardwires to look for patterns, so it’s not surprise we create them as well through our planning.

How much planning, and to what extent these plans direct our actions or our lives, is very much within the realm of the individual. The drive to see if the grass is greener (or just different) over the hill is one that compels many. But some understand the lesson this age-old adage is trying to teach better than others.

My view is, there is wonder and beauty nearly everywhere we go. There is no need to chase around the world, or even to the next anchorage, to find it. Just look, and see what is right here. This is why I abhor the whole “bucket list”, or “101 things you must see before you die” approach to life. To me, this misses the point of living.

But as with all things, there is a balance to be had between planning and actual living. Each of us finds our own balance in different ways. There’s no one right answer.
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Others just seem to need a cheap cold beer.... whatever.
You really like to dig that word 'Cheap' into everything don't you..
As to Cheap Beer in the Med.. like everything else its 'Location, Location, Location..'
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