No More "Drunken Sailors" in PC UK

[Blue Stocking]

I would bet that if the kids heard us discussing this, they would wonder why we were so bent out of shape over it.
They now have a "grumpy pirate" nursery rhyme, and we drunken, hairy- chested sailors can still "put him in the longboat and wet him all over"--or whatever!! (with Black Seal Rum)

[TaoJones]

Originally Posted by Blue Stocking

I would bet that if the kids heard us discussing this, they would wonder why we were so bent out of shape over it.
They now have a "grumpy pirate" nursery rhyme, and we drunken, hairy- chested sailors can still "put him in the longboat and wet him all over"--or whatever!! (with Black Seal Rum)

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Someone give Blue Stocking a silver dollar! You have hit it out of the park, Blue Stocking (I generally shorten members' screen names to their initials, but in your case that might convey the wrong impression ), and provided clarity to what is actually a non-issue.

The sea chantey itself was never abridged by anyone, and each of us is free to sing it as lustily and bawdily as ever. And the well-meaning persons (I assume) who took the chantey and changed the words to suit a younger audience were borrowing the tune, more than anything, and adapting it to suit their purposes. That creative impulse has a long history.

But isn't it interesting to observe what flowed from that decision?

All the best to everyone who participated in this thread. Really!

TaoJones

[starfish62]

Originally Posted by Blue Stocking

I would bet that if the kids heard us discussing this, they would wonder why we were so bent out of shape over it.
They now have a "grumpy pirate" nursery rhyme, and we drunken, hairy- chested sailors can still "put him in the longboat and wet him all over"--or whatever!! (with Black Seal Rum)

Pretty much everything is better with Black Seal rum!!!!!!

[hellosailor]

Not to worry, half of what's come back to England doesn't speak much English anyway. The concept of a "drunken" sailor would only translate as "cursed infidel" anyway.

[BadFish]

Originally Posted by starfish62

The conservative bias in the media is overwhelming.

Are you kidding me, have you seen MSNBC??? Fox News is the only US conservative media network I'm aware of.

Originally Posted by starfish62

Conservatism, especially the neocon movement in the US, is at its core fundamentalist, racist and sexist. They have repeatedly attempted to alter the constitution in order to serve very narrow and divisive interests.

Without attempting to start a political debate, I suggest you do a lot more research before making a statement like that, because your statement is inaccurate and biased. Your applying your views of couple bad apples to an entire group of people. I believe, my friend, that is the definition of prejudice, eh?

Now as for Limbaugh... Every radio station has a "shock jock." He is the political equivalent of that. Although his political veiws may be conservative, he does not embody the rest of us.

Please do more research. Actually read through the Constitution. You will be very surprised how the beliefs of the forefathers and those of modern "neocon" fundamental conservatives align.

SORRY FOR THE SHIFT OF EMPHASIS FROM UK TO US.

Haven't tried Black Seal yet, can't bring myself to buy anything but Mt. Gay.

Cheers

Bill

[TaoJones]

Originally Posted by BadFish

Haven't tried Black Seal yet, can't bring myself to buy anything but Mt. Gay.

I'm not a big drinker, myself, but I do enjoy rum occasionally. I can't say I've tried all the available choices, or even several, because I've found the one I like.

I prefer Pusser's:

PUSSER'S - About Pusser's

TaoJones

[Celestialsailor]

Next thing you know...they will be sifting the weevils out of our bread!!!

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by Southern Star

do-gooders gone wild

LOL I must remember that one

[starfish62]

Originally Posted by BadFish

Are you kidding me, have you seen MSNBC??? Fox News is the only US conservative media network I'm aware of.



Without attempting to start a political debate, I suggest you do a lot more research before making a statement like that, because your statement is inaccurate and biased. Your applying your views of couple bad apples to an entire group of people. I believe, my friend, that is the definition of prejudice, eh?

Now as for Limbaugh... Every radio station has a "shock jock." He is the political equivalent of that. Although his political veiws may be conservative, he does not embody the rest of us.

Please do more research. Actually read through the Constitution. You will be very surprised how the beliefs of the forefathers and those of modern "neocon" fundamental conservatives align.

SORRY FOR THE SHIFT OF EMPHASIS FROM UK TO US.

Haven't tried Black Seal yet, can't bring myself to buy anything but Mt. Gay.

Cheers

Bill

Rush's political views may be conservative? Fox is way beyond conservative and has gone straight into unabashed fascism and gleefully shoveling smug misinformation in their own self service. CBS, NBC and ABC are very close to the same, not to mention the 700 club and the various Falwell/Robertson vehicles. The reactionary myth of the liberal media bias claimed whenever something bad is aired about the GOP is absurd. I suggest, Badfish, that you do a little research yourself--Kevin Phillips would be a good start, or Noam Chomsky for that matter--or get a really good foundation and go back to Hegel. MSNBC is the only progressive channel out there, and to hear a range of opinion on a topic is critical. Having only one option for a dissenting voice is scary. The left has no one voice approaching the broadcast range of O'Reilly, Rush, Coulter or even Hannity. Why do you think these voices are given platforms?

[DavidGC]

I used to feel the need to debate nonsense like this, but no longer.

My wife says I'm 'evolving."

Pass the rum.

DGC

[S/V Elusive]

Please take the political discussion to a political forum. This thread is closed and posts are under review.