Ocean acidifcation .

[JC Reefer]

Originally Posted by newhaul

here this should help you as to asteroids

Again, you prove my point. None of those listed asteroids are going to impact the earth. I’d expect something different the day that is not the case.

I think that climate scientists truly believe that the hypothetical asteroid is coming in to hit the earth.

Show me a globe effecting asteroid that will hit the earth and then we can confirm the hysteria.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Puddleduck

Oh sorry, Ill direct your expert comments to the current uk government...

Try linking the ‘own right’ to ‘our planet’ they’re not independent.

So why do bass smell Exile?

Tell me you don't really sit on panels -- ones that actually make decisions affecting other people that is. You're going to "rip Dr. Ridd a new one, are you?" Besides being largely unintelligible and full of partisan invective, your posts just don't make you seem credible. Are you a bona fide expert in something?

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Exile

I agree with all of this. My concern, however, is that there are preordained outcomes which may or may not be consistent with the actual science, and the best way to safeguard against this is to insure that the skeptics are not hindered in engaging in a free and fair scientific debate. In science, that means the same access to publications and peer review, and a commensurate level of funding for research.

I'll let John Oliver comment on false equality/ballance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuGCJJUGsg

[Puddleduck]

Originally Posted by Exile

I called into question the utility of the study, and whether this sort of research is worth 100,000 of taxpayer money. Ditto for lots of other studies that seem useless in their own right, but are used to promote a very one-sided agenda. Other studies about our planet are certainly worthwhile. It's an opinion you and others disagree with, but not one that's BS.

Sea bass (D labrax) recreational fisheries are estimated at how much £ P.A.? (£millions)

How much is your UK tax contribution? Or per person per kg net weight? add social and political factors and I’d say yes, money very well spent!

It’s all multi disciplinary, you can’t evaluate studies outside of context, thats real life application.

Who brought up this study as part of their agenda???

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

The red line on the graph is the 30 year trend.

A 30-year warming trend, nothing about a 30-year warming trend caused by anthropogenic forces. Simply putting up graphs doesn't prove much.

[Puddleduck]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

That's right, you're our UK based GBR expert. My bad. I am flattered you expect me to be an expert in the Latin names of corals though.

For the record and in your esteemed opinion, how dead is the reef exactly?

How can you talk about corals if you don’t know which one you’re talking about?



Define reef...

[Exile]

Originally Posted by JC Reefer

Again, you prove my point. None of those listed asteroids are going to impact the earth. I’d expect something different the day that is not the case.

I think that climate scientists truly believe that the hypothetical asteroid is coming in to hit the earth.

Show me a globe effecting asteroid that will hit the earth and then we can confirm the hysteria.

Which climate scientists?

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Puddleduck

Define reef...

You're the expert. Didn't you just recently inform me that there are 3000 of them?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I'll let John Oliver comment on false equality/ballance.

Bill Nye the non science mechanical engineer and well known children's tv show host.

I always laugh when they drag him out .

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by JC Reefer

Again, you prove my point. None of those listed asteroids are going to impact the earth. I’d expect something different the day that is not the case.

I think that climate scientists truly believe that the hypothetical asteroid is coming in to hit the earth.

Show me a globe effecting asteroid that will hit the earth and then we can confirm the hysteria.

easy explanation sensationalism and fear porn sells .
If it bleeds it leads mentality .

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by JC Reefer

Again, you prove my point. None of those listed asteroids are going to impact the earth. I’d expect something different the day that is not the case.

I think that climate scientists truly believe that the hypothetical asteroid is coming in to hit the earth.

Show me a globe effecting asteroid that will hit the earth and then we can confirm the hysteria.

What about the unlisted ones. The "known unknowns" don't make it on that list and the only reason no asteroid will currently impact the earth is because the "known unknowns" are excluded?


Climate science future projections are based solely on models. Models that have extreme difficulty modelling things like clouds of which the effects of are not fully understood. That sounds an awful lot like excluding "known unknowns" to me.


So the comparisons remain.

[Puddleduck]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

You're the expert. Didn't you just recently inform me that there are 3000 of them?

Nah that was wiki and you looked up corals not reef!

Look up sympatric while you’re there!

[Exile]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I'll let John Oliver comment on false equality/ballance.

Hopefully you just posted that for some humor. Skepticism runs the gamut from the actual disbelief in the basic science to belief in the science but believing proposed solutions are wholly absurd. But I think much of it comes down to simply not trusting the politicians and others who are communicating the message. For example, people who can still think for themselves don't like being told "the science is settled" and "the debate is over" when clearly it is not. And these days, an injection of partisanship means you've immediately lost up to 50% of potential adherents. The manner in which this issue has been presented has been unbelievably counter-productive, whether you believe it's all a conspiracy to foist socialism on us, or it's all a scam produced by a conspiracy of oil cos. & the Heartland Institute. I just think, for many people you have likely never been exposed to, it's at a level that's good fodder for a late night comedian but not for serious contemplation. These CF threads are useful in that they're representative of the absurdity & distrust going on in the real world. If posters here can recognize it that is.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Puddleduck

Nah that was wiki and you looked up corals not reef!

Look up sympatric while you’re there!

I suspect you're just dodging the answer. C'mon it's your field of expertise. You know the latin names and everything. Don't be shy. Let's have it.

[Puddleduck]

Originally Posted by Exile

Tell me you don't really sit on panels -- ones that actually make decisions affecting other people that is. You're going to "rip Dr. Ridd a new one, are you?" Besides being largely unintelligible and full of partisan invective, your posts just don't make you seem credible. Are you a bona fide expert in something?

Hmmmm play the ball, not the man

Irrefutable on both threads. Awaiting predictable credentialed comments! ...... insert here!