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[newhaul]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Well going by kelvin what is the range of human habitation under normal conditions? And I don’t mean like a space station

And at some point you can’t grow food outside. To hot, to cold, to wet, to dry.

So sure use kelvin but consider what conditions are required for people and food
to survive.

So yes the scale matters but what does it look like if you factor in the range of human habitation.

Well Bach to remounting deck hardware.

For point of reference 273.15°K is 0°C. Food will easily grow up to a range of 10°C to about a warm 38°C. ( 283.5 to about 311 kelvin in summer and people survive just fine down to a cold of about -30°C or about 243 kelvin in winter.

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by newhaul

For point of reference 273.15°K is 0°C. Food will easily grow up to a range of 10°C to about a warm 38°C. ( 283.5 to about 311 kelvin in summer and people survive just fine down to a cold of about -30°C or about 243 kelvin in winter.

Not so much if it’s -30c year around. Hence no plants or native non microorganisms in Antarctica

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Not so much if it’s -30c year around. Hence no plants or native non microorganisms in Antarctica

It's not -30C year around in all of Antarctica.


https://www.bas.ac.uk/about/antarctica/wildlife/plants/

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by SailOar

It's not -30C year around in all of Antarctica.





https://www.bas.ac.uk/about/antarctica/wildlife/plants/

Then I will stand corrected

I do note that we have a difficult time raising our garden between October and June up here in Wisconsin

I guess the real point I was going for but didn’t do a great job with is that it makes no difference what scale you use human life exists in a pretty small range if it has to exist only on what is available locally

The upper half of NA depends on food from other places unless everyone goes back to a lifestyle of about 100 years ago

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Not so much if it’s -30c year around. Hence no plants or native non microorganisms in Antarctica

And there are microorganisms in antartica all year round

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Then I will stand corrected

I do note that we have a difficult time raising our garden between October and June up here in Wisconsin

I guess the real point I was going for but didn’t do a great job with is that it makes no difference what scale you use human life exists in a pretty small range if it has to exist only on what is available locally

The upper half of NA depends on food from other places unless everyone goes back to a lifestyle of about 100 years ago

Ask any first nation person about life below 0

[Reefmagnet]

Reading all this climate doom and gloom makes me wonder if any of these scientists are aware of seasons. For maximums that occur only in the peak of summer, it sure seems to be upsetting the apple cart if the theories are to be believed.



Unless there is something sinister in a 1 degree balmier winter that spells the end of life on Earth?

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Reading all this climate doom and gloom makes me wonder if any of these scientists are aware of seasons. For maximums that occur only in the peak of summer, it sure seems to be upsetting the apple cart if the theories are to be believed.



Unless there is something sinister in a 1 degree balmier winter that spells the end of life on Earth?

I am sure, they know seasons, like project budget planning season....

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Unless there is something sinister in a 1 degree balmier winter that spells the end of life on Earth?

There is no climate change science which says this. What the ecological and environmental science is telling us is that a 1ºC global average increase will cause significant disruption in current ecosystems across this planet.

The exact impacts will depend on the species and the ecosystems, but no one has ever said it will lead to an end of life on Earth.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

And there are microorganisms in antartica all year round

There are microorganisms deep in Earth's crust. It is thought that the volume of microorganisms in the crust is greater than the volume of life on Earth's surface.

There’s a Subterranean Biosphere Hiding in the Earth’s Crust and It’s MASSIVE

The team sampled life forms found at mines and boreholes that had been drilled up to 5 kilometers below the earth’s surface, and up to 2.5 kilometers below the seafloor. With hundreds of samples, they were then able to model the size and makeup of the deep biosphere and it is huge. The DCO estimates that the deep biosphere is probably made up of 2 to 2.3 billion cubic kilometers of living organisms, which is almost twice the volume of all of the earth’s oceans. Just let that sink in a little bit: take the entire water volume of the earth’s oceans, pour it into a container. Now double that container. Now fill that container to the brim with stuff that’s alive--most of it, microscopic.

Endolith

An endolith is an organism (archaeon, bacterium, fungus, lichen, algae or amoeba) that lives inside rock, coral, animal shells, or in the pores between mineral grains of a rock. Many are extremophiles, living in places long imagined inhospitable to life. They are of particular interest to astrobiologists, who theorize that endolithic environments on Mars and other planets constitute potential refugia for extraterrestrial microbial communities.[1][2]

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

There is no climate change science which says this. What the ecological and environmental science is telling us is that a 1ºC global average increase will cause significant disruption in current ecosystems across this planet.

The exact impacts will depend on the species and the ecosystems, but no one has ever said it will lead to an end of life on Earth.

You obviously have not been watching some of our more left leaning progressive politicians in the United States.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

There are microorganisms deep in Earth's crust. It is thought that the volume of microorganisms in the crust is greater than the volume of life on Earth's surface.

There’s a Subterranean Biosphere Hiding in the Earth’s Crust and It’s MASSIVE

The team sampled life forms found at mines and boreholes that had been drilled up to 5 kilometers below the earth’s surface, and up to 2.5 kilometers below the seafloor. With hundreds of samples, they were then able to model the size and makeup of the deep biosphere and it is huge. The DCO estimates that the deep biosphere is probably made up of 2 to 2.3 billion cubic kilometers of living organisms, which is almost twice the volume of all of the earth’s oceans. Just let that sink in a little bit: take the entire water volume of the earth’s oceans, pour it into a container. Now double that container. Now fill that container to the brim with stuff that’s alive--most of it, microscopic.

Endolith

An endolith is an organism (archaeon, bacterium, fungus, lichen, algae or amoeba) that lives inside rock, coral, animal shells, or in the pores between mineral grains of a rock. Many are extremophiles, living in places long imagined inhospitable to life. They are of particular interest to astrobiologists, who theorize that endolithic environments on Mars and other planets constitute potential refugia for extraterrestrial microbial communities.[1][2]

I know that . Was responding to the no life in Antartica comments.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

I am sure, they know seasons, like project budget planning season....

Like Montana they have two seasons 8 months of winter and 4 months of road construction season

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by newhaul

You obviously have not been watching some of our more left leaning progressive politicians in the United States.

Cite the link where someone ... anyone ... has said a 1ºC rise will result in "the end of life on Earth." It will (and is) leading to serious changes in ecosystems all over the planet. But no one of with any scientific credibility would make such a ridiculous claim.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Cite the link where someone ... anyone ... has said a 1ºC rise will result in "the end of life on Earth." It will (and is) leading to serious changes in ecosystems all over the planet. But no one of with any scientific credibility would make such a ridiculous claim.

Now you want credibility I agree with you but in your post I replied to with sarcasm said

(QUOTE) The exact impacts will depend on the species and the ecosystems, but no one has ever said it will lead to an end of life on Earth (quote)