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[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Don't even bother Gary. It's not worth the effort.

Awwww, you never let me have any fun...

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by garyfdl

Science says you're wrong.

We shall see .

Have Michael Mann release all his data so it can be verified and duplicated .
Why hide it from everyone .?
Let's revisit this in 3 years.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Don't even bother Gary. It's not worth the effort. Worse though, it will turn this thread into yet another climate change dumpster fire.

Ike we have long ago decided to agree to disagree.
I have bit my tongue a lot on this thread .
I am not wrong . Time will prove out .
And that is all I will say on the subject .

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Not even man has that ability.
Man is conceited to think he can significantly affect the planet . It has aftrrall been here for over 4 billion years . Man is nothing but a minor few seconds on that Geological clock.
And we are cooling .

Right.
Nature takes millions of years to accomplish, less than, what man does in mere months.
Consider the Appalachian mountains:
“Peaks formed hundreds of millions of years ago [among the oldest mountains on Earth] are obliterated in months.”
Mining the Mountains ➥ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...ins-130454620/

We are warming.

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ike we have long ago decided to agree to disagree.
I have bit my tongue a lot on this thread .
I am not wrong . Time will prove out .
And that is all I will say on the subject .

You are wrong.
Thank you.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Right.
Nature takes millions of years to accomplish, less than, what man does in mere months.
Consider the Appalachian mountains:
“Peaks formed hundreds of millions of years ago [among the oldest mountains on Earth] are obliterated in months.”
Mining the Mountains ➥ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...ins-130454620/

We are warming.



You are wrong.
Thank you.

So what you are telling me is that man's 3% of the total of .04% co2 is actually doing anything ?

Have you ever heard of or even read about saturation ?
It will need to double to even have any potential impact .
And we are cooling again its cyclical .
Look at the Arctic sea ice winter max . Or how the Antarctic sea ice is well above the norms.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Right.]

We are warming.



You are wrong.
Thank you.

So the satellite temperature dataset is wrong as well ??
Roy Spencer, PhD
And explain how the dataset is wrong . The RSS shows the same cooling .

[bcboomer]

Antarctic sea ice is not above normal.

https://www.climate.gov/sites/defaul...-2021_1240.gif

The Antarctic continent has lost billions of tons of ice.

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...ill-losing-ice

Ironically, the depletion of the ozone layer over the Antarctic may have slowed the loss of ice.

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Look at the Arctic sea ice winter max . Or how the Antarctic sea ice is well above the norms.

Learn the difference between 'sea' ice and 'pack' ice, and the effect of salinity on sea ice formation.

As to your UAH graph? Even a 6th grader could tell that the overall trend from '79 to present is upward.

Looks like you just blew yourself out of the water there matey...

(My apologies Mike, I just couldn't help myself )
((I am so ashamed ))

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by garyfdl

Learn the difference between 'sea' ice and 'pack' ice, and the effect of salinity on sea ice formation.

As to your UAH graph? Even a 6th grader could tell that the overall trend from '79 to present is upward.

Looks like you just blew yourself out of the water there matey...

(My apologies Mike, I just couldn't help myself )
((I am so ashamed ))

We are cooling you really should look at the actual long term temperatures of at least the last 100 years . They are commonly available .
1979 just happened to be the coldest year of the last century .

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by bcboomer

Antarctic sea ice is not above normal.

https://www.climate.gov/sites/defaul...-2021_1240.gif

The Antarctic continent has lost billions of tons of ice.

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...ill-losing-ice

Ironically, the depletion of the ozone layer over the Antarctic may have slowed the loss of ice.

Ok here goes a little bit of reality for you.

NASA even admits that the losses of glacial ice on antartica vs the increases of Antarctic glacial ice is a net sum 0 .
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...er-than-losses

Antartic sea ice is infact above normal
https://data.meereisportal.de/maps/l...xtent_s_en.png

[newhaul]

https://electroverse.net/arctic-sea-...rom-our-blog_1

And discuss.

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by newhaul

you really should look at the actual long term temperatures of at least the last 100 years

I have. They all say we're warming.

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by newhaul

https://electroverse.net/arctic-sea-...rom-our-blog_1

And discuss.

(sigh) Again

Learn the difference between sea ice and pack ice, and the the effect of salinity on sea ice formation.

An increase in the accumulation of glacial ice in antarctica doesn't prove the planet, as a whole. isn't warming, in fact, quite the opposite.

I'm done playing "whack-a-mole". Have a nice day.

And again, to Mike OReilly, you were right.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ok here goes a little bit of reality for you.

NASA even admits that the losses of glacial ice on antartica vs the increases of Antarctic glacial ice is a net sum 0 .
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...er-than-losses

You should try to keep up with current science.


ANTARCTICA MASS VARIATION SINCE 2002
Data source: Ice mass measurement by NASA's GRACE satellites.
Gap represents time between missions.



GREENLAND MASS VARIATION SINCE 2002
Data source: Ice mass measurement by NASA's GRACE satellites.
Gap represents time between missions.


https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

I think it’s more the end of some life on earth if my memory serves me right. Eg some plants and animals seem to take awhile if ever to evolve to adapt to warmer, cooler, wetter, or drier climate. Plus possible cascade effects.

I may be mistaken but that might be a concern

I suspect animals and plants in the majority adapt better to warmer conditions then colder conditions. All things being equal, climate is changing in the better direction if this assumption is correct.