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[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Public release of specific campaign dates is usually made a few days prior to the start of the campaign. Exact frequencies often are not determined until immediately before the individual experiment, due to the constantly changing nature of the ionosphere.
There was no mention of any projects for June 21 to June 25, on the University of Alaska Fairbanks HAARP website.
➥ https://haarp.gi.alaska.edu/

Are There Any Long-Term Effects of Ionispheric Heating?
No.
Since the ionosphere is inherently a turbulent medium that is being both stirred up and renewed by the sun, artificially induced effects are quickly obliterated. Depending on the height within the ionosphere where the effect is originally produced, these effects are no longer detectable after times ranging from less than a second to 10 minutes.

A good analogy to this process is dropping a stone in a fast-moving stream. The ripples caused by the stone are quickly lost in the rapidly moving water and are completely undetectable a little farther downstream. A UAF Geophysical Institute scientist compared HAARP to putting an “immersion heater in the Yukon River.”

Can HAARP Control or Manipulate the Weather?
No.
Radio waves in the frequency ranges that HAARP transmits are not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere—the two levels of the atmosphere that produce Earth’s weather. Since there is no interaction, there is no way to control the weather.

The HAARP system is basically a large radio transmitter. Radio waves interact with electrical charges and currents, and do not significantly interact with the troposphere .

Further, if the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don’t affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can either. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near vacuum of the rarefied, but electrically charged region of the atmosphere above about 60-80 km (a little over 45 miles), known as the ionosphere. The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun’s radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth’s atmosphere.


HAARP has been fingered as a mind-control network, an alien-invasion defense system, and the source of an electro-magnetic pulse that destroyed the Space Shuttle Columbia in 2003.
But mostly HAARP has been blamed for the weather, because HAARP controls the weather.
Among the events chalked up to its power: Hurricane Gustav, which prevented George W. Bush from appearing live at the Republican National Convention, and Hurricane Katrina, staged to increase the cost of oil; the catastrophic earthquakes in New Zealand, China’s Sichuan province, Chile, Iran, Japan, and Haiti (so the U.S. could occupy it, a “coup by earthquake”); and now, the recent North-West heat waves.

Stick with it, Thumbs Up. You're batting 1.000.

It's good that you checked with their website to dispel the myth that they created heat domes last month. If they were controlling the weather I am sure they would have posted it. I guess it was caused by high CO2 levels after all. The NOTAM issued for those dates must have just been a drill. The 5 locomotive engine powered generators on the site must just be for standby.

You can't discuss anything around here without someone yelling "CONSPIRACY!"
Why can't we ask: What exactly have we been doing with all of our bioweapons labs all these years?
Or: Why do we have powerful ionosphere heaters spread over the earth and what have we been doing with them.
And: By the way, do you mind showing us the proof?

As long as you swear that the world is flat you are allowed to talk about these things all you want.
They even throw fake conspiracies in the mix to obscure the truth even more.
Some conspiracies turn out to be true. Look it up.
How about The Simpson's predictions that came true conspiracy? You guys don't believe in that? From 2017:https://time.com/4667462/simpsons-pr...ump-lady-gaga/
Richard Branson goes to space.
Look at this: https://people.com/tv/the-simpsons-p...ven-years-ago/

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Except for one thing the heating would necessarily affect the thermosphere and it is actually getting colder instead of warmer which it should be doing by this point in the new solar cycle if it were going to be a strong cycle like some are predicting .
It is currently at 5.08 x10x10 W
It should be close to 9.0 or even 10 by now

You'll have to explain that.
What units of measure are you quoting? What is your source?

The thermosphere is typically about 200° C (360° F) hotter in the daytime than at night, and roughly 500° C (900° F) hotter when the Sun is very active than at other times. Temperatures in the upper thermosphere can range from about 500° C (932° F) to 2,000° C (3,632° F) or higher.

Even though the thermosphere is extremely hot [degrees temp], its low density means that it cannot efficiently convey that energy [joules] to objects moving through it. It has high heat, but low quantity. A mercury thermometer suspended within the thermosphere would read a temperature below freezing, as heat loss would exceed any energy the scattered particles of the thermosphere could transmit to the mercury.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

... Some conspiracies turn out to be true. Look it up.
How about The Simpson's predictions that came true conspiracy? You guys don't believe in that? From 2017:https://time.com/4667462/simpsons-pr...ump-lady-gaga/
Richard Branson goes to space.
Look at this: https://people.com/tv/the-simpsons-p...ven-years-ago/

In 2008 Virgin Galactic's founder, Richard Branson, had originally hoped to see a maiden spaceflight by 2010 [1]. So, it was hardly prophetic to predict an eventual space flight, some 8 years after he announced his intentions.
[1] BBC July 28, 2008 ➥ BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Branson unveils space tourism jet


Still batting 1.000.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

You'll have to explain that.
What units of measure are you quoting? What is your source?

The thermosphere is typically about 200° C (360° F) hotter in the daytime than at night, and roughly 500° C (900° F) hotter when the Sun is very active than at other times. Temperatures in the upper thermosphere can range from about 500° C (932° F) to 2,000° C (3,632° F) or higher.

Even though the thermosphere is extremely hot [degrees temp], its low density means that it cannot efficiently convey that energy [joules] to objects moving through it. It has high heat, but low quantity. A mercury thermometer suspended within the thermosphere would read a temperature below freezing, as heat loss would exceed any energy the scattered particles of the thermosphere could transmit to the mercury.

https://www.spaceweather.com/

From NASA’s data

It's just not warming like it should with Increasing solar activity

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

You can't discuss anything around here without someone yelling "CONSPIRACY!"

Mmmm, no, it's mainly just you. There doesn't seem to be a single phenomenon that you cannot dredge up some mad out-there conspiracy to nail to. Why?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

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You can't discuss anything around here without someone yelling "CONSPIRACY!"
Why can't we ask: What exactly have we been doing with all of our bioweapons labs all these years?
Or: Why do we have powerful ionosphere heaters spread over the earth and what have we been doing with them.
And: By the way, do you mind showing us the proof?
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Ok that bit about HAARP controlling the weather is bs.
If you have proof otherwise please provide the citations .

Here is a question for you . Who is responsible for the current operation of the system?

Hint ; K7WLD. M.A.R.S. 1986-1992. ARRL 1982 to present.

[Thumbs Up]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Mmmm, no, it's mainly just you. There doesn't seem to be a single phenomenon that you cannot dredge up some mad out-there conspiracy to nail to. Why?

Are you suggesting that we are not constantly manipulated and lied to? I hadn't considered that possibility. Maybe the world is exactly as presented on Wikipedia and CNN (that is, nothing to see here, move on).

All of the watchdogs and whistleblowers of the world should just hang up their hats because the corporations, governments, and mega rich all have our best interest in mind.

The corporate controlled echo chamber media never frame ideas, push agendas, stoke unnecessary fear, run smear campaigns or spread propaganda.

Our governments don't kill innocent people, or destabilize independent nations.

Thanks for changing my mind. I feel so much better now.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Are you suggesting that we are not constantly manipulated and lied to?

... not constantly, no. Leastwise, it's not my experience of the world. But who knows... maybe all your contacts do actually lie and try to manipulate you. Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't necessarily follow that everyone in the world ISN'T out to get you.

For the rest of us... most problems are adequately explained as follows:

Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity. -Hanlon's Razor

All of the watchdogs and whistleblowers of the world should just hang up their hats ...

The real ones do us a service. The people who constantly collect and then parrot ridiculous "theories" which are usually built on top of other ridiculous theories, all of them unproven or demonstrably false, do no one a service.


-cough-5G-cough-

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Thumbs Up

Are you suggesting that we are not constantly manipulated and lied to? I hadn't considered that possibility. Maybe the world is exactly as presented on Wikipedia and CNN (that is, nothing to see here, move on).



All of the watchdogs and whistleblowers of the world should just hang up their hats because the corporations, governments, and mega rich all have our best interest in mind.



The corporate controlled echo chamber media never frame ideas, push agendas, stoke unnecessary fear, run smear campaigns or spread propaganda.



Our governments don't kill innocent people, or destabilize independent nations.



Thanks for changing my mind. I feel so much better now.

We are not being “ constantly manipulated “ because that would suggest some over-arching controlling entity

We are constantly being bombarded with everyone’s version of the “truth “ and the internet’s amplification factor means some “ influencer “ in his bedroom can sway thousands of minds with nonsense.

It’s such that legitimate truths are now lost in a sea of noise , obfuscation, and confusion. “ easy “ access to nonsense theories ( bill gates microchip etc ) has meant gullible ( or lazy ) people consume this nonsense without further inspection or reading the source material , then parrot these lies on social media for other gullible people to consume.

It’s exacerbated by people tending to listen only to other like minded people ( ie confirmation bias ) without studying alternative perspectives that may present arguments they don’t agree with.

It’s a form of global “ gossip “ but that’s all it is.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

We are not being “ constantly manipulated “ because that would suggest some over-arching controlling entity

We are constantly being bombarded with everyone’s version of the “truth “ and the internet’s amplification factor means some “ influencer “ in his bedroom can sway thousands of minds with nonsense.

It’s such that legitimate truths are now lost in a sea of noise , obfuscation, and confusion. “ easy “ access to nonsense theories ( bill gates microchip etc ) has meant gullible ( or lazy ) people consume this nonsense without further inspection or reading the source material , then parrot these lies on social media for other gullible people to consume.

It’s exacerbated by people tending to listen only to other like minded people ( ie confirmation bias ) without studying alternative perspectives that may present arguments they don’t agree with.

It’s a form of global “ gossip “ but that’s all it is.

Bill Gates microchip is agreed a bunch of ridiculous rumor. There is absolutely no need for. That most of the first World people already voluntarily are tracked on a near constant basis . just look at your phones . and social media accounts. ( no I don't have any social media accounts ) . they are for the most part a total waste of time and energy)

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Bill Gates microchip is agreed a bunch of ridiculous rumor. There is absolutely no need for. That most of the first World people already voluntarily are tracked on a near constant basis . just look at your phones . and social media accounts. ( no I don't have any social media accounts ) . they are for the most part a total waste of time and energy)

Sadly if we could get more people off social media the noise might begin to lesson and the truths emerge

[ixnax]

Originally Posted by GordMay

“Will antibody tests for the coronavirus really change everything?” ~ by Smriti Mallapaty

“... It seems that many tests available now are not accurate enough at identifying people who have had the disease, a property called test sensitivity, and those who haven’t been infected, known as test specificity. A high-quality test should achieve 99% or more sensitivity and specificity, adds Collignon. That means that testing should turn up only about 1 false positive and 1 false negative for every 100 true positive and true negative results ...

... But some commercial antibody tests have recorded specificities as low as 40% early in the infection. In an analysis2 of 9 commercial tests available in Denmark, 3 lab-based tests had sensitivities ranging 67–93% and specificities of 93–100%. In the same study, five out of six point-of-care tests had sensitivities ranging 80–93%, and 80-100% specificity, but some kits were tested on fewer than 30 people. Testing was suspended for one kit. Overall, the sensitivity of all the tests improved over time, with the highest sensitivity recorded two weeks after symptoms first appeared ...

... Point-of-care tests are even less reliable than tests being used in labs, adds Smith. This is because they use a smaller sample of blood (typically from a finger prick) and are conducted in a less controlled environment than a lab, which can affect their performance. They should be used with caution, he says.

The WHO recommends that point-of-care tests only be used for research ...

... Despite the challenges, once reliable antibody tests are available, they could be important to understanding which groups of people have been infected, and how to stop further spread, says Collignon. They could even be used to diagnose active infections when PCR tests fail, adds Smith.”

Much more ➥ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01115-z

Gord, so I have a friend who knows a guy and this guy may or may not have an EUA on a hand held breathalyzer test that, in tests, has been 98%+ accurate in detecting active Covid. 15 seconds and you get a Red or Green Light. I'm not at liberty to say which light means what, of course. It could be a couple of bucks per test in operation. Game changer, seems to me.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by ixnax

Gord, so I have a friend who knows a guy and this guy may or may not have an EUA on a hand held breathalyzer test that, in tests, has been 98%+ accurate in detecting active Covid. 15 seconds and you get a Red or Green Light. I'm not at liberty to say which light means what, of course. It could be a couple of bucks per test in operation. Game changer, seems to me.

Simple covid test drink a beer. ( substitute favorite beverage) can you smell it? Can you taste it? If answer is yes then you don't have covid

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Simple covid test drink a beer. ( substitute favorite beverage) can you smell it? Can you taste it? If answer is yes then you don't have covid

Not so. Loss of smell is common but not absolute. Asymptomatic COVID cases don’t loose the sense of smell for example

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Not so. Loss of smell is common but not absolute. Asymptomatic COVID cases don’t loose the sense of smell for example

We really need a sarcastic joke emoji