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[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ok I know this is a screen grab however in the past I have posted the links to the actual reports that this was written from .

All of the MMGWC people put your brains together and explain away all of these statements .

Ah, some more of the "raw data" that you spend your time with.

Your pattern is well-known: post some denier-supplied factlet or other, claim it as a smoking gun or definitive proof... somebody proves you wrong... you go quiet for a bit... then you show up with some other factlet, and the cycle continues.

So ... pass for now . Maybe when you repost it again in a few weeks time....

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Ah, some more of the "raw data" that you spend your time with.

Your pattern is well-known: post some denier-supplied factlet or other, claim it as a smoking gun or definitive proof... somebody proves you wrong... you go quiet for a bit... then you show up with some other factlet, and the cycle continues.

So ... pass for now . Maybe when you repost it again in a few weeks time....

First off thank you for the earlier post . I do believe we could be good friends as well as long as we stay away from deep dives in some subject matter.

Now as to the screen shot I did post the links to the papers including the IPCC report of no net effect on the hurricane frequency or intensity .

That said I'm going claming and crabbing .
Might even do a couple gelcoat repairs next week if I need fuel that is .

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by newhaul

If you don't know what the sun is doing and what it's effects are on its planets well you are missing 70% of the equation. 5hen there is the effects on us of the cosmic astrophysics.
You need to have a grasp on all of it to even begin to understand any of it .

OK... I have studied astrophysics AND geology. What "cosmic astrophysics" are you talking about in relation to climate change?

[newhaul]

https://www-theweathernetwork-com.cd...www.google.com

https://nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_sum...=NSF&from=news

https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2021...znBZBTMx5EX_xQ

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by newhaul

https://www-theweathernetwork-com.cd...www.google.com

https://nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_sum...=NSF&from=news

https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2021...znBZBTMx5EX_xQ

So... if this is a response to my question, then -- it isn't. All three reference solar activity. Anyone who has actually studied astrophysics would know that a reference to "cosmic" is extrasolar, and usually extragalactic. It's a pretty basic concept.

A "cosmic astrophysics" effect would be the big bang background radiation, cosmic neutrinos, or perhaps gravity waves. As far as I know, none of these things have any bearing on the climate of the Earth.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

So... if this is a response to my question, then -- it isn't. All three reference solar activity. Anyone who has actually studied astrophysics would know that a reference to "cosmic" is extrasolar, and usually extragalactic. It's a pretty basic concept.

A "cosmic astrophysics" effect would be the big bang background radiation, cosmic neutrinos, or perhaps gravity waves. As far as I know, none of these things have any bearing on the climate of the Earth.

No that was not a direct response however you need to update your understanding of astrophysics . Astrophysics is any beyond the Earth's ionosphere.
However you do need to read the postings there is also some mention of GCRs and the effects on the Earth's cloud nucleotide ( which they admit is a big unknown as to cloud effect on the climate system of the earth .

Now back to crab.

[newhaul]

Now I know I will get blasted for this because of the source . And likely won't even try to listen. But on the off chance you take the time it has some good info in it .

https://youtu.be/tog6vDpxbr8

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by newhaul

No that was not a direct response however you need to update your understanding of astrophysics . Astrophysics is any beyond the Earth's ionosphere.
However you do need to read the postings there is also some mention of GCRs and the effects on the Earth's cloud nucleotide ( which they admit is a big unknown as to cloud effect on the climate system of the earth .

Now back to crab.

It wasn't the term astrophysics that is being questioned. It's your misuse of the term "cosmic", which clearly demonstrates (once again) that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

It wasn't the term astrophysics that is being questioned. It's your misuse of the term "cosmic", which clearly demonstrates (once again) that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Perhaps you should reread that one I specificly stated
" then there is the effects on us of the cosmic astrophysics."
Referencing GCRs from nearby nova and super nova . Not to mention the Oscillation of the galactic current sheet .
My fault for not being extremely specific .

[Reefmagnet]

I have vague recollections that there has been an association of cosmic rays and cloud formation in some studies. With clouds being the Achilles heel of climate models in general, cosmic influences cannot be totally dismissed if this is the case.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

I have vague recollections that there has been an association of cosmic rays and cloud formation in some studies. With clouds being the Achilles heel of climate models in general, cosmic influences cannot be totally dismissed if this is the case.

Yes, cosmic rays can create clouds in the upper atmosphere. Nothing new there. Heck, it's the basis for some of our earliest particle detectors. It's a fact that has been known for decades -- damn near a century now.

If a nearby star when supernova we'd have a massive "cosmic" influence on our climate. But not even a nearby star going nova will have much impact on us.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Yes, cosmic rays can create clouds in the upper atmosphere. Nothing new there. Heck, it's the basis for some of our earliest particle detectors. It's a fact that has been known for decades -- damn near a century now.

If a nearby star when supernova we'd have a massive "cosmic" influence on our climate. But not even a nearby star going nova will have much impact on us.

Actually our cosmic rays exposure is rather high right now
Oulu Cosmic Ray Station

Real time Cosmic Ray Data, Mexico

https://www.space.com/32644-cosmic-rays.html

https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/solar/cosmicrays.html

That's a good start for you .

[garyfdl]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...edium=Facebook

[SailOar]

A 'Massive Melting Event' Has Struck Greenland Due to Northern Hemisphere Heatwave [end of July]

• Greenland's ice sheet experienced a "massive melting event" with temperatures more than 10 degrees Celsius above seasonal norms
• The ice sheet melted at around 8 billion metric tons a day, twice its normal average rate
• Enough ice vanished in a single day to cover the whole of Florida in two inches of water
• The Nerlerit Inaat airport in northeast Greenland recorded 23.4 degrees, the highest recorded there since records began
• The largest melt of the Greenland ice sheet occurred in the summer of 2019, though this year's event covered a larger area

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

A 'Massive Melting Event' Has Struck Greenland Due to Northern Hemisphere Heatwave [end of July]

• Greenland's ice sheet experienced a "massive melting event" with temperatures more than 10 degrees Celsius above seasonal norms
• The ice sheet melted at around 8 billion metric tons a day, twice its normal average rate
• Enough ice vanished in a single day to cover the whole of Florida in two inches of water
• The Nerlerit Inaat airport in northeast Greenland recorded 23.4 degrees, the highest recorded there since records began
• The largest melt of the Greenland ice sheet occurred in the summer of 2019, though this year's event covered a larger area

Let's keep all of that in context shall we.
3 days later it gained more than had melted.
It is still well above average for annual mass.

http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/pola...N_20210813.png