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Old 05-09-2021, 23:45   #2626
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But, of course, 'meteorologists' analyse, explain and forecast weather, which, by definition, are the atmospheric conditions most adjacent to now.

Conversely, climate, which is what the Old Farmers Almanac is purportedly 'predicting', is, in this case, a model of what they think is gonna happen in whatever period they attach to their definition of a season.

To their detriment are, of course, the so-common-as-to-be-tropisms quaasi-weekly 'predictions' of weather events months before they happen...

As 'everyone knows', the chaotic nature of the forces producing weather make any quantitative or qualitative individual prediction of local, (defined as 'a 100 square miles'), precise, weather beyond 5 days,virtually impossible.

And, it must be remembered, that 'chaos' forever prohibits any'body', even god itself, or the best model its inventor ever constructed, from improving on that ability.

Sucks to be us...unless one happens to like the vagaries imposed by unpredictability...
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Freak NA winters linked to Arctic warming


Models suggest that distortions in polar-vortex winds can send chilly air hurtling southwards. But some climate scientists remain unconvinced.

Recent spells of unusually cold winter weather, in the United States, and other parts of the Northern Hemisphere, could be a paradoxical consequence of climate warming, in the Arctic.
A study [1], based on 4 decades of atmospheric observations, shows how rapid Arctic warming can trigger anomalies in the polar vortex [a fast-flowing band of high-altitude winds around the North Pole] with consequences for weather, thousands of kilometres farther south.
It is still unclear whether this represents a long-term trend, that will persist as the world heats up.
And the idea that Arctic warming might be responsible for cold spells, in mid-latitude regions, is still hotly debated among climate scientists.

More about ➥ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02402-z

[1]“Linking Arctic variability and change with extreme winter weather in the United States” ~ by Judah Cohen et al
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abi9167
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An 'Internet apocalypse' could ride to Earth with the next solar storm, new research warns
  • Severe coronal mass ejections have a likelihood of directly hitting Earth between 1.6% to 12% per decade
  • Only two such storms have been recorded — the Carrington Event in 1859 and the other in 1921
  • As a result of the Carrington Event telegraph wires burst into flame and auroras were seen near equatorial Colombia
  • A new study suggests that another such CME could knock much of society offline for weeks or even months
  • Local and regional internet connections are likely at low risk of being damaged because fiber-optic cables themselves aren't affected by geomagnetically induced currents
  • However, the long undersea internet cables that connect continents have repeaters, which are vulnerable to geomagnetic currents
  • The economic impact of an Internet disruption for a day in the US is estimated to be over $7 billion
The paper can be read here.
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An 'Internet apocalypse' could ride to Earth with the next solar storm, new research warns
  • Severe coronal mass ejections have a likelihood of directly hitting Earth between 1.6% to 12% per decade
  • Only two such storms have been recorded — the Carrington Event in 1859 and the other in 1921
  • As a result of the Carrington Event telegraph wires burst into flame and auroras were seen near equatorial Colombia
  • A new study suggests that another such CME could knock much of society offline for weeks or even months
  • Local and regional internet connections are likely at low risk of being damaged because fiber-optic cables themselves aren't affected by geomagnetically induced currents
  • However, the long undersea internet cables that connect continents have repeaters, which are vulnerable to geomagnetic currents
  • The economic impact of an Internet disruption for a day in the US is estimated to be over $7 billion
The paper can be read here.
The paper does present several interesting points . Now as to omissions, they seem to have forgotten about Quebec in 1989.
Now in my opinion ( based on the conclusion of many astrophysicists) we are not climbing up from low solar cycles we are actually going to be continuing down into a grand minimum after cycle 25 . We are coming off of a grand maximum that peaked in 1957.
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The paper does present several interesting points . Now as to omissions, they seem to have forgotten about Quebec in 1989.
Now in my opinion ( based on the conclusion of many astrophysicists) we are not climbing up from low solar cycles we are actually going to be continuing down into a grand minimum after cycle 25 . We are coming off of a grand maximum that peaked in 1957.
"Now as to omissions..."

What you omitted was to actually read either the article or the study. Both mentioned the Quebec event.

Typical newhaul. Engaging mouth before brain.
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Freak NA winters linked to Arctic warming


Models suggest that distortions in polar-vortex winds can send chilly air hurtling southwards. But some climate scientists remain unconvinced.

Recent spells of unusually cold winter weather, in the United States, and other parts of the Northern Hemisphere, could be a paradoxical consequence of climate warming, in the Arctic.
A study [1], based on 4 decades of atmospheric observations, shows how rapid Arctic warming can trigger anomalies in the polar vortex [a fast-flowing band of high-altitude winds around the North Pole] with consequences for weather, thousands of kilometres farther south.
It is still unclear whether this represents a long-term trend, that will persist as the world heats up.
And the idea that Arctic warming might be responsible for cold spells, in mid-latitude regions, is still hotly debated among climate scientists.

More about ➥ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02402-z

[1]“Linking Arctic variability and change with extreme winter weather in the United States” ~ by Judah Cohen et al
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abi9167
Interesting. The BBC's recent reporting on this same study left out the uncertainty revealed by the parts highlighted above. Are folks beginning to see where so much of the misinformation and unsupported alarmism lies? Hint: It's generally not individual scientists themselves.

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Freak NA winters linked to Arctic warming


Models suggest that distortions in polar-vortex winds can send chilly air hurtling southwards. But some climate scientists remain unconvinced.

Recent spells of unusually cold winter weather, in the United States, and other parts of the Northern Hemisphere, could be a paradoxical consequence of climate warming, in the Arctic.
A study [1], based on 4 decades of atmospheric observations, shows how rapid Arctic warming can trigger anomalies in the polar vortex [a fast-flowing band of high-altitude winds around the North Pole] with consequences for weather, thousands of kilometres farther south.
It is still unclear whether this represents a long-term trend, that will persist as the world heats up.
And the idea that Arctic warming might be responsible for cold spells, in mid-latitude regions, is still hotly debated among climate scientists.

More about ➥ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02402-z

[1]“Linking Arctic variability and change with extreme winter weather in the United States” ~ by Judah Cohen et al
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abi9167
It's all connected to solar activity. When the Sun is in its minimum activity phase of each 11 year half cycle the jet stream is more inclined to wander and when in the high activity part the jet stream is much more inclined to be locked in more .
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"Now as to omissions..."

What you omitted was to actually read either the article or the study. Both mentioned the Quebec event.

Typical newhaul. Engaging mouth before brain.
Typical SailOar bot. Personal attacks . Instead of attacking you should present evidence of what was missed. So as to ensure a better discord.

Ever consider I do some things to see what level of discord you actually want to engage in?
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Interesting. The BBC's recent reporting on this same study left out the uncertainty revealed by the parts highlighted above. Are folks beginning to see where so much of the misinformation and unsupported alarmism lies?
Any perceived wiggle room is also the source of excuses, downplaying, dismissal, and failure to engage more fully with all of the science.
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https://electroverse.net/uk-fires-up...rom-our-blog_1

UK FIRES-UP COAL POWER PLANTS AS EUROPEAN GAS SHORTAGES WORSEN

“Englands green and pleasant Land” has been disturbed by the firing-up of a dirty old coal power plant this week, as failing renewables, poor planning, and drastically reduced gas supplies are crippling the nation’s electricity needs.

As the*BBC*puts it: “still autumn weather has meant wind farms have not generated as much power as normal, while soaring prices have made it too costly to rely on gas.” And as a result, and denting the government’s commitment to completely phase out coal power by 2024, the UK’s National Grid asked EDF to fire-up the*West Burton A*power plant to cope with demand.
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Interesting. The BBC's recent reporting on this same study left out the uncertainty revealed by the parts highlighted above. Are folks beginning to see where so much of the misinformation and unsupported alarmism lies? Hint: It's generally not individual scientists themselves.
Even my summarized teasers fail to disclose all the information in the studies - otherwise it wouldn't be a summary.

Which is why I always try to offer links to the PRIMARY sources.
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Any perceived wiggle room is also the source of excuses, downplaying, dismissal, and failure to engage more fully with all of the science.
Not when it's pervasive. Then it's a credibility problem which only exacerbates (or yes, excuses) preexisting doubts. You're never going to be able to exaggerate, scare, shame, suppress, or bully people into going along with policies which negatively impact their own self-interest (actual or perceived). It's basic human nature (like it or not).
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Even my summarized teasers fail to disclose all the information in the studies - otherwise it wouldn't be a summary.

Which is why I always try to offer links to the PRIMARY sources.
In this case your summary was enough to reveal incomplete and (arguably) misleading reporting on the exact same study by the BBC.
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https://electroverse.net/uk-fires-up...rom-our-blog_1

UK FIRES-UP COAL POWER PLANTS AS EUROPEAN GAS SHORTAGES WORSEN

“Englands green and pleasant Land” has been disturbed by the firing-up of a dirty old coal power plant this week, as failing renewables, poor planning, and drastically reduced gas supplies are crippling the nation’s electricity needs.

As the*BBC*puts it: “still autumn weather has meant wind farms have not generated as much power as normal, while soaring prices have made it too costly to rely on gas.” And as a result, and denting the government’s commitment to completely phase out coal power by 2024, the UK’s National Grid asked EDF to fire-up the*West Burton A*power plant to cope with demand.
Unintended consequences (yet again ).
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The most interesting statement from the webpage linked to above?


"Please also consider disabling ad blockers for electroverse.net, if you use one.

And/or become a Patron, by clicking here: patreon.com/join/electroverse.

The site receives ZERO funding, and never has.

So any way you can, help us spread the message so others can survive and thrive in the coming times."

https://electroverse.net/uk-fires-up...rom-our-blog_1


Suppose it's just another example of the lively 'discord' promoted by certain members frequently 'discording' 'hear'...
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