Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

[SV THIRD DAY]

Why, when the hysteria is so good on...why not just copy it.....

[StuM]

Just realised that the three apostles (LE, JD and DF) are all from Canuckistan.

Is it something they put in the water?

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by StuM

Just realised that the three apostles (LE, JD and DF) are all from Canuckistan.

Is it something they put in the water?

In fact there is...it's called Tar Sands.

[Simonsays]

Originally Posted by StuM

Is it something they put in the water?

that was Flint, MI.
oh wait, that was something they did NOT put in the water to save some change.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

In fact there is...it's called Tar Sands.

Tar Sands is the term used by those who are opposed to its development. The PC term is Oil Sands.

The Athabasca River on which the Oil Sands are located flows into the Arctic. My water source flows into Hudson Bay. Two totally different drainage systems.

[Qvox]

(strange first post for a new member, who joined a cruisers forum to learn about sailboats ...but I couldn't resist after stumbling on this thread)

I agree with the article. IF global warming is caused by man, it won't be an issue 100 years from now. Unless we build all the bureaucracies and government the climate change folks want to build ...then the problem will linger.

Once people are making a living fighting climate change you'll never get rid of it. Like all government and special interest groups do now, they'll just perpetuate their existence by creating issues, and inciting emotion.

Government and government action groups are filled with people whose income depends on a steady stream of problems and fears to justify stealing other people's money. Many of these "professional" bureaucrats can't really do anything else. They certainly don't want to enter the free-market, and have to actually provide value. They don't want their incomes and benefits to come from voluntary exchange, and be subject to the harsh realities of the free-market.

Then there are those that I actually think might have a more malevolent intent. They want to use climate change to redistribute wealth, and get paid to manage society on a full time basis. They're central planners.

In 20 years electric cars will start to take over the roadways. Reducing our dependency on oil. Within 50 years we'll have workable fusion reactors, that will make electricity unimaginably cheap. We'll also have cheap fuel cell technology, and cheap and super efficient solar cells. If we could overcome people's irrational fears we have the ability to build very safe and efficient fission reactors now.

In less than 30 or so years it will be apparent to everyone that fossil fuels are on the way out.

We can't let them build a government, or a bureaucratic and regulatory apparatus for global warming. If we do then global warming will be a problem for generations to come.

[Kenomac]

Very nice, well thought first post... Which I happen to agree with.

Thanks

[fryewe]

Glad you're here, Qvox...if you brought your curiosity and sense of humor, I think you'll like it here.

[StuM]

Welcome Qvox. Nice to see another rational thinker here

[newhaul]

Welcome qvox excellent first post look forward to many more from you.

[Qvox]

Thanks folks. I really didn't join the forum to become controversial. I'm just in the process of trying to find a good boat to sail in retirement, and reading all I can read.

Thanks again.

[fryewe]

Those who think the Climate Change discussion isn't surrounded by government and scientific community deceit simply aren't paying attention, or more likely, are simply blindly supporting L-E's "soshulist" team.

Judge Orders White House To Stop Hiding Its Bogus Global Warming 'Proof'

[fryewe]

Will the effects of unlimited immigration by the globalists on green issues cause a further backlash against EU immigration policy?

Swedish City Cancels Earth Hour Because Of Rape Risk | The Daily Caller

[Exile]

Originally Posted by fryewe

Those who think the Climate Change discussion isn't surrounded by government and scientific community deceit simply aren't paying attention, or more likely, are simply blindly supporting L-E's "soshulist" team.

Judge Orders White House To Stop Hiding Its Bogus Global Warming 'Proof'

Blind support seems to be an apt term. I don't have a problem with differing opinions, but when those who merely acknowledge the existence of scientific uncertainty are deemed "deniers" or whatever, I become even more dubious of the mainstream position. Speaking of, I wonder how much of a scientific "consensus" would support the White House's position that recent extreme cold events constitute evidence of warming? Is this really backed up by mainstream science, or just more political propaganda?

For all the armchair scientists in the crowd -- along with our one, self-appointed armchair psychologist -- here's another well-established tenet of science that may be worth pondering, regardless of what position anyone may have:

A New Study Shows How Climate Science Could Be All Wrong | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Exile

Speaking of, I wonder how much of a scientific "consensus" would support the White House's position that recent extreme cold events constitute evidence of warming? Is this really backed up by mainstream science, or just more political propaganda?

Sometimes science is counter-intuitive.

Earth has seen some highly unusual weather patterns over the past three years, and three new studies published this year point to Arctic sea loss as a potential important driver of some of these strange weather patterns. The record loss of sea ice the Arctic in recent years may be increasing winter cold surges and snowfall in Europe and North America, says a study by a research team led by Georgia Institute of Technology scientists Jiping Liu and Judith Curry. The paper, titled "Impact of declining Arctic sea ice on winter snowfall", was published on Feb. 27, 2012 in the online early edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. "Our study demonstrates that the decrease in Arctic sea ice area is linked to changes in the winter Northern Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, said Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, in a press release. "The circulation changes result in more frequent episodes of atmospheric blocking patterns, which lead to increased cold surges and snow over large parts of the northern continents."

Arctic sea ice loss tied to unusual jet stream patterns | Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

And Curry is a skeptic.