Why Climate Change Won't Matter in 20 Years

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Let me fix that for you.

Thank you. I'll try to work on that, if you promise to work on your sentence structure and excessive use of links.

Deal?

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

So, apparently this is how you spoke to your former students. Nuff said.

Are you unable to complete a full sentence?

Originally Posted by jackdale

Try presenting some evidence that supports your naive position.

That is a complete sentence.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Thank you. I'll try to work on that, if you promise to work on your sentence structure and excessive use of links.

Deal?

In junior high I learned to footnote references. I continued to do so through two stints in graduate school. My students to expected to use references and include bibliographies.

Were you not expected to do likewise? I would like to know the sources of your evidence, should you choose to use any.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Were you not expected to do likewise? I would like to know the sources of your evidence, should you choose to use any.

"I yam what I yam,". Popeye the Sailor Man. 1933

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

"I yam what I yam,". Popeye the Sailor Man. 1933

"Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise." Although attributed to Martin Luther, he did not say it.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by SailOar

No whining, I am just noting that you do rather a lot of cutting and pasting in lieu of having an argument. No problem for me, but if I want to know what the cartoonist at Skeptical Science has to say on the topic, I just go to his website.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I bet this is where they come up with the 97% consensus the 100 volunteer scientists on this site .

Lomborg has demonstrated by using the warmists' own numbers and tools that they are wasting an enormous amount of money accomplishing nothing. Naturally, this makes warmists feel very uncomfortable since even they must understand that in a world of limited resources if you spend a few trillion chasing snipes, you have a few trillion less to, say, find a cure for Alzheimers. Given the incoherence of some of the warmist posts on this thread that should be viewed favorably by many of them.

In any case, Lomborg is a greenie, just like they are. He just thinks that we should spend the money figuring out how to make windmills that actually make economic sense.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Evidence is so boring.

Just in case my opinion has been unclear

- AGW is real.

- The costs outweigh any supposed benefits.

- We can do something about AGW.

Need more?

Happy.

Three declarative statements contradicted by the data. That pretty much sums up the warmist argument.

[mr_f]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Some more assessment of Lomborg.



Analysis of Bjorn Lomborg's "...in many ways global warming will be a good thing" - Climate Feedback



Analysis of Bjorn Lomborg's "An Overheated Climate Alarm" - Climate Feedback

Here is some more critique of Lomborg's previous work (in this case a book he wrote)

Reviewing Lomborg's claims are Dr. Peter Gleick, an internationally recognized expert on the state of freshwater resources; Dr. Jerry Mahlman, one of the most highly regarded atmospheric scientists and climate modelers; and top biologists and biodiversity experts Dr.'s Edward O. Wilson, Thomas Lovejoy, Norman Myers, Jeffrey Harvey and Stuart Pimm.

These separately written expert reviews unequivocally demonstrate that on closer inspection, Lomborg's book is seriously flawed and fails to meet basic standards of credible scientific analysis. The authors note how Lomborg consistently misuses, misrepresents or misinterprets data to greatly underestimate rates of species extinction, ignore evidence that billions of people lack access to clean water and sanitation, and minimize the extent and impacts of global warming due to the burning of fossil fuels and other human-caused emissions of heat-trapping gases. Time and again, these experts find that Lomborg's assertions and analyses are marred by flawed logic, inappropriate use of statistics and hidden value judgments. He uncritically and selectively cites literature -- often not peer-reviewed -- that supports his assertions, while ignoring or misinterpreting scientific evidence that does not. His consistently flawed use of scientific data is, in Peter Gleick's words "unexpected and disturbing in a statistician".

It makes total sense why Delfin likes him so much.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Delfin

Three declarative statements supported by the data. That pretty much sums up the warmist argument.

Fixed.

[SV THIRD DAY]

Onward MMGW Cultists...to arms....attack...

Ha ha ha...

These guys are too much to take, fun to watch, but really. They would have made excellent inquisitors at the witch trials.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Im not sure there is a correlation to be made between Christianity, non Christians and the belief in Global Warming, it seems that the GW disorder affects anyone unable to fight the infection with reason, so much so, that while I've continuously tried to steer the conversation back to the OP, several serial posters remain steadfast in their determination to promote their own political agenda.

Now...... That's a sentence.

Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by weavis

Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...

Ah....well...
You may want to talk to the Pope.
Last time I checked he does consider himself a Christian and is a MMGW Believer.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

Ah....well...
You may want to talk to the Pope.
Last time I checked he does consider himself a Christian and is a MMGW Believer.

I will mark him up as the first anomoly...on the other hand, being pope has political leanings....

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by weavis

Well......... hate to burst yer theory but a Christian should not be worried about Global warming and the earths future....

Statistically, that means that most GW persona are not Christians... or at least that is a postulated premise to explore with data.

On the other hand, there is enough postulation going without adding to it...

Tell that to Katherine Hayhoe, an Evangelical climate scientist.

Katharine Hayhoe | Climate Scientist