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Ram · 09-03-2009, 13:20

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Originally Posted by zeehag

Antigua was considered safe--- there are no safe places in third world nations for flaunting wealth and position.......is far safer to not be conspicuous. safe spots?? usa is still SAFE--maybe...as the economy falters, so does safety. believe or not---is your life---reading of others problems that were brought about by conspicuous consumption-or of someone ignoring safety factors in 3rd world nations--guess where cruising grounds are!!!!--a trait of our constituency--is not and never will be a safety factor.
awareness of surroundings is basic and is necessary to survival. be safe and see what there is to see in this big world. we all know there are no SAFE places in 3rd world nations. goood luck and happy cruising.

WHos talking about Flaunting wealth and Position???
Its very simple , stay away from places that are having a lot of crime- many 3 world countrys are very safe to cruise and many are not - its up to each person to determine which ones are safe before landing there-

zeehag · 09-03-2009, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Ram

WHos talking about Flaunting wealth and Position???
Its very simple , stay away from places that are having a lot of crime- many 3 world countrys are very safe to cruise and many are not - its up to each person to determine which ones are safe before landing there-

when the persons being kidnapped and killed are crew on megas, there is a position and wealth factor. if it is not obvious, then maybe should be....just be careful where you go--the economy makes a very big difference and those of us with boats are considered wealthy in the eyes of the 3 world dwellers. have fun and enjoy your cruising.

MoonlightShadow · 09-03-2009, 16:27

Arlington, Virginia. Brixton, London. Safer than Antigua?

Both have a higher murder rate per head of population.

Yet would you describe Washinton and London as unsafe to the point of not going there?

Safety is becoming a bigger issue these days, but there is still a large element of "perception" in the mix - mostly due to what we see in the media etc.

One of the most dangerous thing we do is drive cars. MacNemara highlighted the fact that the same number of Americans die on the roads in the US every year, than were killed in the whole of the Vietnam War.

Anyway, sorry, a bit of thread drift here. It is was only windy in St Thomas.

zeehag · 09-03-2009, 17:41

i believe the point is--it doesn t matter where ya go--is the way in which one represents self and what appearance might cause problems---adaptibility is very important---whether doing emergency nursing in a ghetto war zone in lost angeles or sailing a fanch dancy boat in a 3rd world nation or sitting on a train somewhere----no one is SAFE anywhere----donot count on safety as given anywhere.

seacap · 09-03-2009, 18:09

oh by the way. Got knocked down twice more. gusts up to 50knts. Saw a couple of hard bottom inflatables flipped over. there was also some reports of damage and injury across the Virgins, not just Long Bay.

You folks keep it up and I will have St. Thomas all to myself....thanks.

MoonlightShadow · 10-03-2009, 12:49

Sorry Gary, it's those F11 winds that have blown us completely off thread.

Look on the positive side: you have one hell of an anchor!!!

Deep keel, precious little windage, 7-tonnes of boat, and you got knocked down three times. That must be some kind of a record. You sound like you are OK though?