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Old 21-08-2015, 01:35   #1
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The launching of "MACUSHLA"

I'm basically a nooby to CF although I've been a long time reader of many threads and a recent publisher of about 5 posts. I put up a link under the above title to show off my pride & joy. She is a Passage 24. A cute little boat that I fell in love with long ago and eventually built up from a bare GRP hull & deck assembly over a great many years.
Her keel first touched water about three weeks ago & we have only raised sail 3 times, one of those times was pre launch, on "the hard".
Being located in the PNW we get very little wind in many coastal areas, & such is the case where I am at Pt. Roberts, WA ... however, we took her out for an hour this evening on a bit of a shake-down just to see how "ready" we are to sail.
A major problem came to light with the mainsail. The nylon slugs are extremely difficult to start up the mast. The problem lies in the area of the sail entry device. It takes extreme effort on the part of my 50 y.o. son to cause the slugs to enter the integral mast track of the 4 x 6 oval spar.
I should point out that I am using a fully reconditioned and powder coated Selden Spar from an older Vega 27 ... the only "used" item on the boat. I have inspected the sail entry device and the track slot & see nothing that should prevent the slugs from sliding up the mast ... but they don't.
The sails & slugs are all new, as is everything else on the boat. Even the spars (mast & boom) look new to the casual onlooker.
So I'm wondering if anyone else has run into a similar problem & if so, what did they do to overcome it? I have considered applying a touch of silicone but in what form? Spray - liquid - gel-cream - or other???
I intend to contact my sail-maker on the morrow to get his response on the matter. Meanwhile, I thought no harm posing the problem to the vast number of experts on CF, just in case my sail-maker has no answer to my problem ... besides which, I intend to go sailing this coming weekend & would like make things a little easier for my crew.
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Old 21-08-2015, 03:27   #2
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Re: The launching of "MACUSHLA"

There are a couple of appropriate products out there. McLube and SailKote come to mind (I don't guarantee the spelling).
Old school use some candle wax or even Joy detergent.
You might consider sanding/ filing the corners where the sail enters the track.
A little usage will probably make things easier.
And, of course, are the slugs the proper size?
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There are a couple of appropriate products out there. McLube and SailKote come to mind (I don't guarantee the spelling).
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These products that are dedicated to the task suggested by FSMike might do best, but I'll mention the "Black Magic" automotive tire silicone spray that is sold at auto parts stores. This works well for me.
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Also, google Tides Marine as an alternative to ancient mast track. Slugs are a pain and always require some snot to make them slide. But they are a real problem when they won't let the sail come down in a hurry. Using the Tides Marine slick track will make you wonder why anyone uses something else.

If you are going to stay with slugs in the mast track look at how they are sewn to the sail. The attachment has to keep the slug vertical at all times. What causes the slug to bind is when it rotates away from vertical and then gets stuck. This can happen more often if the attachment to the bolt rope is a little lackadaisical. Also, make sure the slugs are exactly the right size for your track. Using the wrong slug is a source of much grief.
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Also, google Tides Marine as an alternative to ancient mast track. Slugs are a pain and always require some snot to make them slide. But they are a real problem when they won't let the sail come down in a hurry. Using the Tides Marine slick track will make you wonder why anyone uses something else.

If you are going to stay with slugs in the mast track look at how they are sewn to the sail. The attachment has to keep the slug vertical at all times. What causes the slug to bind is when it rotates away from vertical and then gets stuck. This can happen more often if the attachment to the bolt rope is a little lackadaisical. Also, make sure the slugs are exactly the right size for your track. Using the wrong slug is a source of much grief.
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Old 21-08-2015, 16:34   #6
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The launching of "MACUSHLA"

Thanks everyone for your comments & advice ... I think Steadyhand may have hit on the source of the problem with his comment about slug size.
I did have a long chat with my sail-maker a short while ago & he came to a similar conclusion. He told me there is a smaller slug available for that particular spar & he will bring some in next week so that I can change them out myself.
Apparently the slugs are not sewn on but attached mechanically. I shall take a close look at them when I visit the boat on the morrow, forming my own conclusion as to whether or not I want to install them or have the sail-maker replace them. Personally, I think i will have him do the work as these are new sails & I don't want to provide any reason for him to not honour any warranty claim.
Thanks again folk.
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Thanks everyone for your comments & advice ... I think Steadyhand may have hit on the source of the problem with his comment about slug size.
I did have a long chat with my sail-maker a short while ago & he came to a similar conclusion. He told me there is a smaller slug available for that particular spar & he will bring some in next week so that I can change them out myself.
Apparently the slugs are not sewn on but attached mechanically. I shall take a close look at them when I visit the boat on the morrow, forming my own conclusion as to whether or not I want to install them or have the sail-maker replace them. Personally, I think i will have him do the work as these are new sails & I don't want to provide any reason for him to not honour any warranty claim.
Thanks again folk.
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Slug Size is good to measure/note/compare. (I was not the one to bring that up, above.)

I have a friendly suggestion. When you do get to see the other slugs, make a photo of the two together and come back to the forum and post that photo in this thread.

Also, showing the replacement of the slugs (if done by you) in a series of photos (showing the steps of replacement and the sail track etc.) would be a good thing to add to the Cruisers WIKI or in a new thread with the topic of "Replacing Sail Slugs." Stuff like that will help others in the future.
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