Advantages to have a small boat

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I see small boats on that big boat...how safe are those small boats?

Note: in this example if the big boat goes down...notice you do not get on a bigger boat but a small boat in this case.

Beauty...
Keno.. small boat opinion comes from sailing them in and across the Southern Approaches, Bay of Biscay, and yes.. even that puddle you love so much.. the Med.. and yes I also use a bar stool.. but that's for drinking on after doing the crossings..

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I see small boats on that big boat...how safe are those small boats?

Note: in this example if the big boat goes down...notice you do not get on a bigger boat but a small boat in this case.

Originally Posted by boatman61

Beauty...
Keno.. small boat opinion comes from sailing them in and across the Southern Approaches, Bay of Biscay, and yes.. even that puddle you love so much.. the Med.. and yes I also use a bar stool.. but that's for drinking on after doing the crossings..

Like I wrote earlier on post #164.

My opinion comes from doing the same. Point of information: Small boats can't even make headway into winds and waves exceding 20 knots plus, hence.... the small craft warnings issued by the Coast Guard.

The example used above "I see small boats on the big boat" is just so absolutely ridiculous. Did it even dawn on you that the people who might need to get into one of those small boats, will eventually get picked up by another BIG boat? Or do you believe a fleet of Contessa 26 sailboats will be coming to the rescue?

Honestly..... where do some of you come up with these ideas?

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

My opinion comes from doing the same. Point of information: Small boats can't even make headway into winds and waves exceding 20 knots plus, hence.... the small craft warnings issued by the Coast Guard.

Where did you get this idea?

I'm guessing my boat at 27' LOA (19.75 LWL) is considered small, but it has no problem in 20 knot winds.

Into 20 knot winds, it's not going to point that great, but once the boat heels over and digs in, it's time set the autopilot, relax, and enjoy the ride.......

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

So.... the two of you seem to be suggesting that a Contessa 26 is somehow more seaworthy and safer than the Queen Mary II. Really???

Where and how do you guys come up with these ideas?

Nope, I said the QE2, you just didn't read my post, instead you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

Didn't someone just do a circumnavigation of N & S America in a Co26. Don't remember the QE2 doing the NW passage, so must be safer

Pete

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Nope, I said the QE2, you just didn't read my post, instead you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

Didn't someone just do a circumnavigation of N & S America in a Co26. Don't remember the QE2 doing the NW passage, so must be safer

Pete

Matt Rutherford sailing from Annapolis, MD did that on an Albin Vega 27

http://www.sailmagazine.com/cruising...-accomplished/

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by Cadence

A Clorox bottle has a little return. A good reflector is a cheap investment. I guess AIS with a transponder is better investment

Learned that lesson the hard (and stupid) way ...

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

'Seems to me like most of the small boats being safer zealots have reached their conclusions by anaylizing their research data whilst aboard a bar stool following a few pints.



I'll stick with the big boats.

Wow! Those new Oysters are gorgeous!

[CHAZ]

Ahoi all,

The National Weather Service does not specifically identify what constitutes a "small craft". The size of the boat is only part of what a person should consider when venturing out under such a warning. Weight, displacement and hull design are also important factors and an even more important consideration is not only the craft, but the experience of the captain.

The wind speed that triggers the advisory has changed over time. Until the late 1960s, the threshold was 32 to 38 miles per hour (or 28 to 33 knots). At some point, the lower limit was reduced to 23 miles per hour (20 knots). Today, however, most places have standardized on 25 to 38 miles per hour (22 to 33 knots), encompassing the combined ranges of forces 6 and 7 on the Beaufort scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_craft_advisory

It seems a on bigger boat (ship) the skipper (captain) needs less experience

Fair winds

[boatman61]

[QUOTE=Kenomac;2358304]Like I wrote earlier on post #164.

My opinion comes from doing the same. Point of information: Small boats can't even make headway into winds and waves exceding 20 knots plus, hence.... the small craft warnings issued by the Coast Guard.

QUOTE]

That's about the time they call off Americas Cup runs as well..
This so much like the Mono-Multi crap.. Point of information.. they can if you know how to sail..

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I see small boats on that big boat...how safe are those small boats?

Note: in this example if the big boat goes down...notice you do not get on a bigger boat but a small boat in this case.

Finally! I was wondering why no-one ever noticed that!!!

Big boats have small rescue boats because the opposite would be, exactly what?

Pigs are called pigs you know because they like to crawl in the mud.

Cheers,
b.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Finally! I was wondering why no-one ever noticed that!!!

Big boats have small rescue boats because the opposite would be, exactly what?
Simple.. Small boats are rescued by big boats.. its called back scratching..
Merchant Ship Rescues Survivors from Damaged Yacht | Blue Water Sailing


Pigs are called pigs you know because they like to crawl in the mud.
Only the domesticated ones..
Cheers,
b.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Point of information: Small boats can't even make headway into winds and waves exceding 20 knots plus

Sorry. Been there, done that. 19 ft boats, Lake Erie- Pelee Island to Put-In Bay. Average wind was 22 to 25 kt (measured, and reported). Was kind of fun.

[Jim Cate]

Adding to the mess: there is a theoretical relationship between beam and the size of wave that can cause a capsize in a yacht. I do not remember the exact relationship, but it is definitely bigger boat takes a bigger wave. Seems to me that this is a safety feature f a larger boat!

Jim

[tuffr2]

I may be wrong but I think I heard a wave 1/3 the length of the boat can capsize the boat. So a 60' boat could be capsized by a 20' wave a 30' boat could be capsized by a 10' wave.

Now, not sure if this takes into consideration the way the wave hits the boat. Or is this formula is for a head on wave?

[Sea Dreaming]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I may be wrong but I think I heard a wave 1/3 the length of the boat can capsize the boat. So a 60' boat could be capsized by a 20' wave a 30' boat could be capsized by a 10' wave.

Now, not sure if this takes into consideration the way the wave hits the boat. Or is this formula is for a head on wave?

I believe the wave height needed to capsize a boat is 30% breaking wave hit beam on.
I might be wrong about that too but it makes good logical sense.

As for size of boats...a big one feels safer, but perhaps perception can decive..