Anchoring Where has the respect gone ?

[gmakhs]

Originally Posted by Palarran

Are you cruising in Greece? Get used to it. Haven't you noticed that everyone leaves their fenders out on both sides of the boat no matter what. There is a reason for that.

Actually while I was cruising in Greece I never had this kind of problems, this occurs most in Caribbean for me .... And I stated above I don't have an issue with the error or mistake I do wonder why the attitude ?
Everybody does mistakes I nearly lost my boat twice but i learnt from that didn't try to blame others or acting with attitude

[tarian]

Originally Posted by fatherchronica

It may not have been a language barrier that prevented a Canadian who crashed into my Monitor wind vane as he tried to back into a slip next to me from apologizing, or even acknowledging it even occurred. But even after 8 or 10 people manually put him in the slip so that they could step on and off of the swim step they were still to drunk not to sometimes make it into the water. And to hide his ineptitude the owner spent several hours over the next couple days drunk, loud, all knowing, in the center cockpit of the boat on the other side of Mana explaining all the design flaws on my boat. Unfortunately he hit something and sank shortly after. I blame arrogance or ineptitude for folks not caring about the other people around them. Sometimes stupidity too.

Or maybe they just like to keep to themselves , as an Autistic person I sometimes feel it difficult to communicate with people or look then in the eye and can come across aloof and an arse, but I am genuinely the fairest and nicest person ,who will always help someone, but I get frustrated that we must follow some unknown writing etiquette in the sailing world , that has no bearings on rules or written in a funny language, but are misinterpreted to suit the accuser.
Be nice to your fellow human is my motto , gets me through life pretty easily and when I meet people that seem to be doing something wrong I will try and help and make friends ,and if they dont want to and cause me an interference in my life I will move on and live my life happily and peacefully some were else, and not letting my limited time on this world worrying about anchoring my boat.

[senormechanico]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Its a result of to many folk competing for limited space.. here in Portugal theres folk who go of for a sail from an anchorage and disconnect the chain, attach an old dinghy or buoy then come back after several days expecting the space to be respected so they can just pick up their chain and resume as before..
Do they ever get indignant if you've arrived while they were away and are impinging on their swing room..
Too right they do..
Its what happens when city folk venture beyond the suburbs.. in the country they fence off land.. on the water they'll try the same.

That often happens in the San Juan Islands in Washington State as well.

[davidmilne]

I have spent decades at sea professionally and as a yachtsman with a gaff rigged sailboat. the fact is that most people do not know how to anchor. they also do not know how to grab a mooring, or to tie a knot, or how to use dead reckoning. and many people do not have enough interest to learn. they may have gotten away with it, so incompetence becomes habit. they do not want to take the time to study the anchorage. if they cannot see the bottom , they assume its ok . they do not understand scope, or even the difference between anchors. they cannot be educated. money takes the place of smarts. when i go to an anchorage i spend time watching the other boats,the swinging, even whether boats are on line or chain. and when other yachts come in, i stand on the highest part of my boat and tell them to get the "F..." away. sometimes it works. but have no expectation.

[Pegu Club]

It’s like any portion of human societies, there is a percentage of people who are never going to be particularly good in a group setting, be it in an anchorage or an office party, it’s just how it is, and it is never going to change.

Fair winds,

[ArmyDaveNY]

Wait, isn't there an app for this?

[hzcruiser]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Its a result of to many folk competing for limited space.. here in Portugal theres folk who go of for a sail from an anchorage and disconnect the chain, attach an old dinghy or buoy then come back after several days expecting the space to be respected so they can just pick up their chain and resume as before..

They leave their main anchor and chain behind? That's bold.

And how do they anchor while away?

[s/v Jedi]

I never have problems. When I see them coming, I just hoist my NRA flag and they anchor well clear of me

[sailorboy1]

I would think swinging the light saber around would be more effective

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by hzcruiser

They leave their main anchor and chain behind? That's bold.

And how do they anchor while away?

Its usually a second anchor they have set up.. lotsa boats carry a decent kedge anchor.

[mikedefieslife]

Sounds to me like the OP hangs around an anchorages for 30mins drifting and getting in the way of those that are actually trying to anchor.

When I'm in an achorage I expect boats to do two of the following three things.

1) Have a quick cruise around the anchorage
2) Anchor
3) F-off and leave

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

Sounds to me like the OP hangs around an anchorages for 30mins drifting and getting in the way of those that are actually trying to anchor.

[Boatsie]

Hi gmakhs, hi all,
I probably look like an anchor, just an Aries brother and not sure if I Rammed you..
Loving sail, I like stink boats too, we all love our environment.
Just poking fun.

She'll be coming 'round the mountain when she comes.
She'll be riding 4 white horses as she comes.
A rock at/on clew
A pocket flutter fuel
She'll be flowing around that mountain when she comes.

She'll be pointing ever higher as she comes.
She'll be pointing at her tail as she comes.
He'll be flowing on her low.
A pocket of rocket to go.
They'll be pointing highs to low as she comes...

'G sis,* doe's she steer via leading edge?
Doe's she steer via point of tail? '
'Brace dear,* make him sheet himself.* All sail boats are the same. '
' thanx grandma,* thanx grandpa,* I guess it's just practice '


So there you go.* Free.* A description of air steerage on a boat.

Free.

I'm so glad to reduce to balance rather than shear Brutus.

A small one here.*

Love Boatsie again..* Please recycle.

Weap on dry,
* reaching ever high.
The children need their playground,
With a look Watt, I found.
Watt is visually said,* sails say that!
Giddy up

[RoadRacer]

^^^ That's gen-u-ine marina gibberish there! For the love of God put the rum bottle down!

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by john61ct

Hanlon's razor

"Never attribute to malice*that which is adequately*explained by stupidity."*

You're giving most too much credit...ignorance, in my experience anyway, surpasses stupidity by about 2 to 1. (but I'm [usually] an optimist)