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Old 28-12-2021, 08:25   #1
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Aqua Map lost AIS

I had AQuaMap AIS working on my iPhone 6. I have transitioned to a IPhone 11.

Now I can see the NEMA data stream but no AIS or instrument data is displaying in AM.

I feel there is some setting I need to toggle but I can’t find it.

Any help.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

"No route to host"

I assume you are connecting to your AIS or possibly Signal K or something similar via Wifi?

Is your phone trying to join another Wifi? Or possibly losing connection to the wifi?

"No route to host" means that there is no entry in the route table that can be used to get traffic to that destination IP. Most likely you are expecting to be on the same network as your AIS data source, but it looks like you are, then you aren't. That seems to me like either loosing wifi signal, or joining another preferential signal.

Its less likely that you are actually trying to connect to something that's on a different network that your phone. In that case you'd need a router on your local network to route the traffic to the destination network. Typically that's the "default router" but I won't get into that unless that's what you're trying to do.

I'm sort of going through the same thing with Aquamap on my iPad at the helm. I was trying to connect to me RPi4 running OpenPlotter in A/P mode but the Wifi signal from the pi is too low.

I bought a cheap ($30 Linksys WRT54GL router/wifi access point, switched out the wall wart for a 12v line), connect my pi and my ipad to the same network and I keep signal.

Still having issues with aquamap though but I'm not getting "no route to host" like you.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

Thanks for reply. I am surprised at how little notice has been taken.

So to clarify and expand a bit….

AIS and instruments are connected to a Yacht Devices router via NEMA and SeaTalk.

Spending hours more I have gotten this far:

On an Android phone I get AIS and instruments on AquaMap fine.

On a previous iPhone 6 it worked fine on AquaMap and iNavEx.

On THIS iPhone 11:
INavex receives AIS, works fine
AquaMap does NOT show AIS or instruments. Connection reports as “Active- not connected.”

So I am convinced all the data is there and the YDNR is working fine.

This seems to be an iPhone problem. Either iPhone — or ios15.
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Thanks for reply. I am surprised at how little notice has been taken.

So to clarify and expand a bit….

AIS and instruments are connected to a Yacht Devices router via NEMA and SeaTalk.

Spending hours more I have gotten this far:

On an Android phone I get AIS and instruments on AquaMap fine.

On a previous iPhone 6 it worked fine on AquaMap and iNavEx.

On THIS iPhone 11:
INavex receives AIS, works fine
AquaMap does NOT show AIS or instruments. Connection reports as “Active- not connected.”

So I am convinced all the data is there and the YDNR is working fine.

This seems to be an iPhone problem. Either iPhone — or ios15.


Be happy to try to help. Can you screenshot your connection page on aqua map for the working and non working phone? It is under settings and then WiFi connection. Perhaps you don’t have the right port. My works fine on an iPhone 11 and iOS 15 (source is vesper)
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

Allen,

Sure, here it is.

A bit more info. i dug out my old iPhone6 and it works there.

Connections are identical.

Either iPhone11 or ios15 issue?
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Sure, here it is.



A bit more info. i dug out my old iPhone6 and it works there.



Connections are identical.



Either iPhone11 or ios15 issue?

Looks like the right port number.

Turns out the iOS device I used most often was 14.8, but tested with 15.1.8 iPhone 13 and it worked.

Before I give up, what are your network settings for the yacht devices ( see wifi settings). Router should be 192.168.4.1 and subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0 and the IP address should start with 193.168.4
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

The thing is:
INavEx AIS works with these settings on the iPhone11.
And
AquaMap works with these settings in the iPhone 6.

So I believe the settings are correct.
And the iPhone is communicating to YDNR via iNavEx.

I am stumped.
Awaiting further info from AquaMap help.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

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The thing is:
INavEx AIS works with these settings on the iPhone11.
And
AquaMap works with these settings in the iPhone 6.

So I believe the settings are correct.
And the iPhone is communicating to YDNR via iNavEx.

I am stumped.
Awaiting further info from AquaMap help.
Let me know what you get, as I continue to have problems. It will connect, says its Ok, then disconnect. I get no options. I'm connecting to Signal K on Pi, so my settings will be different but it sounds like a similar problem.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

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The thing is:
INavEx AIS works with these settings on the iPhone11.
And
AquaMap works with these settings in the iPhone 6.

So I believe the settings are correct.
And the iPhone is communicating to YDNR via iNavEx.

I am stumped.
Awaiting further info from AquaMap help.


That is weird. I have the same yacht devices bridge which I use to get battery and regulator info. I was able to connect it successfully to Aqua maps with the iOS 15 and iPhone 12. It doesn’t get any useful info for aquamaps but status says connected and the log shows the nema sentences going by. Please post when you get a solution from Aquamap.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

AquaMap help line came through in this one.

This was a new to me phone I got from my daughter.

As AM wifi worked “out of the box” on all other installations I did not suspect the iPhone settings.

If you go to Settings then find the AquaMap settings there is a setting called “LOCAL NETWORK” which must be turned ON.

I turned it in and AM immediately went to work.

Basically I got stuck with rigid thinking. Didn’t dawn in me to look at iPhone settings.

AM HELP was helpful.

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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

Glad the problem got resolved and thanks for posting the solution. Just to clarify for others, the settings where “local network” must be enabled is in the iPhone settings (under aquamap) not the Aquamap settings.
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Re: Aqua Map lost AIS

Allen,
Yup, that is correct.

Every other phone I have used already had the “local network” on. Why this one was different I don’t know.
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