Cruise Ship Costa Concordia - MERGED THREADS

[St. Elsewhere]

Work has been progressing . . . . .

Name: COSTA CONCORDIA Costa Concordia - Type of ship: Passenger ship - Callsign: IBHD - vesseltracker.com
IMO: 9320544
Time: 16-10-2012 11:29:08 UTC

NEWS:
The salvage of the "Costa Concordia" will be delayed by two months. Bad weather contributed to this delay, but Microperi assured to have the wreck removed by spring 2013. 400 workers and 20 ships are working around the clock. Within the next 10 days the ship is to be stabilized by piles of 30 metres length, and the holes for positioning the caissons are being drilled. the 30 caissons are actually constructed in four yards of 40 Fincantieri with a delivery date between end of October and January 2013. Once the wreck is raised it is to be towed to Livorno.

[MacG]

It had been issued that they were far ahead as planned before.

You cannot predict this sort of enterprises. Not only unwise but also short sighted.

I make a wager that that boat will not be removed till the end of next year. And that help from other companies is required.

[St. Elsewhere]

More problems encountered on the Concordia . . . . .

Name: COSTA CONCORDIA Costa Concordia - Type of ship: Passenger ship - Callsign: IBHD - vesseltracker.com
IMO: 9320544
Time: 18-10-2012 08:44:24 UTC

NEWS:
Teams were working late into the night this week in a hotel on Giglio to coordinate the arrival of 66 divers who are tasked with putting 17,500 tons of cement bags in a 50-metre gap between the "Costa Concordia" and the seabed.
The fear is that the midship section may give way, breaking the ship in half, a risk greatly increased should there be bad weather over the coming winter. The more support the hull has the better it may survive the winter. The project, which Carnival says will cost at least 400 million euros is running several months late due to technical issues. The seabed is granite rock, the worst kind to be drilling in, especially at the 35 to 40 degree angles that Titan is drilling. The drill head also slips on the rock. The team finally managed to get the first hole drilled this week. Life in the marine park is being monitored by Giandomenico Ardizzone, professor in environmental biology at Rome's Sapienza University, whose 15-man team have been painstakingly saving rare giant mussels from under the wreck. He also has watchers go out in a boat twice a day to see whether there are any whales or dolphins near the Concordia: If there were, the drilling would stop because it could damage their hearing even over a long distance. To limit the intense vibrations and din when the wreck is righted, the professor is drawing up plans for a bubble wall created by pressurised air bubbles released from a pipe on the seabed to form a buffer curtain.

[Blue Stocking]

Originally Posted by St. Elsewhere

More problems encountered on the Concordia . . . . .

Name: COSTA CONCORDIA Costa Concordia - Type of ship: Passenger ship - Callsign: IBHD - vesseltracker.com
IMO: 9320544
Time: 18-10-2012 08:44:24 UTC

NEWS:
Teams were working late into the night this week in a hotel on Giglio to coordinate the arrival of 66 divers who are tasked with putting 17,500 tons of cement bags in a 50-metre gap between the "Costa Concordia" and the seabed.
The fear is that the midship section may give way, breaking the ship in half, a risk greatly increased should there be bad weather over the coming winter. The more support the hull has the better it may survive the winter. The project, which Carnival says will cost at least 400 million euros is running several months late due to technical issues. The seabed is granite rock, the worst kind to be drilling in, especially at the 35 to 40 degree angles that Titan is drilling. The drill head also slips on the rock. The team finally managed to get the first hole drilled this week. Life in the marine park is being monitored by Giandomenico Ardizzone, professor in environmental biology at Rome's Sapienza University, whose 15-man team have been painstakingly saving rare giant mussels from under the wreck. He also has watchers go out in a boat twice a day to see whether there are any whales or dolphins near the Concordia: If there were, the drilling would stop because it could damage their hearing even over a long distance. To limit the intense vibrations and din when the wreck is righted, the professor is drawing up plans for a bubble wall created by pressurised air bubbles released from a pipe on the seabed to form a buffer curtain.

----and a 1000ft? "bubble wall" wont bother the whales and dolphins hearing ?
Whales create bubble walls to corral smaller schooling fish before feeding on them.
Maybe our professor is going to conduct classrooms sessions to educate the whales and dolphins first!!
Geeeeesh--what mixed up priorities. Spare me Greenies!!

[foggysail]

Originally Posted by Blue Stocking

----and a 1000ft? "bubble wall" wont bother the whales and dolphins hearing ?
Whales create bubble walls to corral smaller schooling fish before feeding on them.
Maybe our professor is going to conduct classrooms sessions to educate the whales and dolphins first!!
Geeeeesh--what mixed up priorities. Spare me Greenies!!

Yes--- save the muscles and clams for stew! Geez, cannot even take a poop without some Greenie finding a problem with it.

[Sailor g]

Nothing wrong with trying to protect the ocean- after all we get between 50-85% of our oxygen from it.

[St. Elsewhere]

Costa Cruises and their salvage contractors have created a web site to present project status updates . . . .

Here is the link: theparbucklingproject.com

[xymotic]

Originally Posted by St. Elsewhere

Costa Cruises and their salvage contractors have created a web site to present project status updates . . . .

Here is the link: theparbucklingproject.com

Thanks for that link. wow.

[MacG]

The boat will still be there end of next year unless other contractors are hired.
Nero nor Titan can do the job, which was known already before signing papers.
Bad weather is not unusual in the med therefore their excuse is ridiculous.

Is the concrete bedding already finished?

[Sailor g]

Originally Posted by St. Elsewhere

Costa Cruises and their salvage contractors have created a web site to present project status updates . . . .

Here is the link: theparbucklingproject.com

Really interesting to see how they are going to do it. Thanks for the link!

[KJB]

Originally Posted by Sailor g

Really interesting to see how they are going to do it. Thanks for the link!

Ditto for the link! Interesting.

[capcook]

Wow... that is one expensive and complicated way to refloat a boat... I wonder why they can't just close any of the water tights that are still intact, pump out the water from them, then use some kind of inflatable bladder for in the water tight compartments that have been breached... I guess there must be reasons.... but this sure seems like an expensive and complictated way of doing it... just two cents from this arm chair quarterback

[Dreaming Yachtsman]

Originally Posted by capcook

Wow... that is one expensive and complicated way to refloat a boat... I wonder why they can't just close any of the water tights that are still intact, pump out the water from them, then use some kind of inflatable bladder for in the water tight compartments that have been breached... I guess there must be reasons.... but this sure seems like an expensive and complictated way of doing it... just two cents from this arm chair quarterback

Agree wholeheartedly! Perhaps the contract awarded a percentage of the total cost to the contractor, giving them an advantage for driving up the cost. Could be that environmental concerns of the hull breaking u over rode common sense.

[xymotic]

Originally Posted by Dreaming Yachtsman

Agree wholeheartedly! Perhaps the contract awarded a percentage of the total cost to the contractor, giving them an advantage for driving up the cost. Could be that environmental concerns of the hull breaking u over rode common sense.

Or that the hull was designed to be barely strong enough to support the weight of the ship and is not designed to flex and rotate. And as far as floats and airbags go, it's really damned big.

[Capt Phil]

These guys are pro's so not going to second guess them. I imagine the insurance they carry is astronomical for such a venture in the event she turns turtle or some other disaster. The environmental sensitivities dictate a really careful and well thought out plan that probably has more oversight than anything we are used to in the US. Hope all goes well and they video the whole step by step process for all of us.
Interesting that the Captain is now suing the cruise line because he 'fell' into a lifeboat!