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Old 15-12-2021, 05:16   #76
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That is not quite true. AMVER can arrange for someone to come to you.

https://www.amver.com/Content/Docs/P...ss_release.pdf

https://youtu.be/NBn7drXizb0

The Coast Guard can deliver water pumps as well - 200 miles offshore.

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The blue water sailor should know what is available and how to reach out for assistance.
Sorry but no, your planning can not rely on help coming to you during offshore passages. Whatever is available, may or may not be available and can not, must not be relied upon: it is purely an option of last resort.
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Sorry but no, your planning can not rely on help coming to you during offshore passages. Whatever is available, may or may not be available and can not, must not be relied upon: it is purely an option of last resort.
Indeed - this is a truism
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Re: Who is a 'bluewater skipper'? What is 'bluewater preparation'?

This is why you should consider storage and tankage when answering the "bluewater" question, along with other factors. A bluewater boat needs to be able to operate independently for long periods.
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Not to brag, but I've been a blue water boater my entire life, just about 40 miles north of Detroit. I've enjoyed power boats, sailboats, Windsurfers, swimming, SCUBA diving, and I've even WALKED over the Blue Water Bridge.

It's a great area to visit if you get the chance. Except for the current under the bridge, it's an easy area to sail.
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Sorry but no, your planning can not rely on help coming to you during offshore passages. Whatever is available, may or may not be available and can not, must not be relied upon: it is purely an option of last resort.
Those resources worked for me.
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This is why you should consider storage and tankage when answering the "bluewater" question, along with other factors. A bluewater boat needs to be able to operate independently for long periods.


Water can be made and diesel tankage isn’t enough anyway on long journeys. Tankage is a trade off like everything else. We crossed the Atlantic and only used 250 litres of water. !! ( 3 men )
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Water can be made and diesel tankage isn’t enough anyway on long journeys. Tankage is a trade off like everything else. We crossed the Atlantic and only used 250 litres of water. !! ( 3 men )

You can cross an ocean in a bathtub. That doesn't make it a bluewater boat.
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Water can be made and diesel tankage isn’t enough anyway on long journeys. Tankage is a trade off like everything else. We crossed the Atlantic and only used 250 litres of water. !! ( 3 men )
I don't know.. you can go a bludi long way on the two tanks in a Lagoon 450 running just one engine at a time on 5kts... you could definitely do the Atlantic with a fuel stop at the Azores I reckon.
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I don't know.. you can go a bludi long way on the two tanks in a Lagoon 450 running just one engine at a time on 5kts... you could definitely do the Atlantic with a fuel stop at the Azores I reckon.
Except of course when your bulkheads fall apart down into the cracked bilge
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Water can be made and diesel tankage isn’t enough anyway on long journeys. Tankage is a trade off like everything else. We crossed the Atlantic and only used 250 litres of water. !! ( 3 men )
But if you subsisted on liquids you had in the hold, isn't that also a question of storage?
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Re: Who is a 'bluewater skipper'? What is 'bluewater preparation'?

So here’s the thing: we all know what a blue water boat is after that other thread… a blue water boat can take a sailor across an ocean… but a blue water sailor can take any boat across that ocean
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So here’s the thing: we all know what a blue water boat is after that other thread… a blue water boat can take a sailor across an ocean… but a blue water sailor can take any boat across that ocean
Yes, the genesis of this thread was that one, and I'm getting the idea from many posts, especially your detailed one.

Definitely Boatman has described crossing oceans in a Beneteau 323, a boat I wouldn't take from Boston to Provincetown (50 nm.)

Ergo he is a 'bluewater sailor' and I am a self-described-happy-to-be coastal slacker.

Though I'd love to be on a Beneteau 323 when Boatman is the skipper and I watch him do it. But I'm afraid for that to happen, I have to buy one and hire him.

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