Has the all-electric galley come of age?

[ZULU40]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

One huge mistake I made was using the over power rating as opposed to the energy consumption. Once up to temperature the oven will cycle on and off. A 2.9kw oven might only use 0.9kw in fan assisted mode once properly pre-heated.

I chose a countertop oven that commonly are rated 1500 to 1000 watt max. On thermostat they cycle somewhat less.

[DSIMMIE]

Hey, Just seen a vlog on YouTube yesterday talking about this! I thought it was interesting, but above my expertise to add any help on the subject.


He talks about -- Lithium batteries, a big ass inverter, and an induction cooktop.


Also had more information on that page if u wanted more. Here's the link. https://youtu.be/GvDCLtN22jY

[oleman]

Electric is the safest and easiest for temperature control in a galley. Steam utensils are nice also to get food going in a hurry for a large crew where 4 squares per day are served.
Flammable gases have no place in food preparation on a vessel.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by ZULU40

Thats the thing, efficiencies vary quite a lot. Ive yet to see how long it takes to boil a liter (ok a pint) of water on an induction plate but thats the way to make comparisons.

My own meths stove takes 2x that of LPG gas so I accepted a compromise to get gas off the boat and save some legislative issues. But the boat is safer and I no longer have to lug gas bottles off the dinghy to the boat.

I always thought metho stoves to be incredibly dangerous.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by oleman

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Flammable gases have no place in food preparation on a vessel.

Rubbish

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by travellerw

Your propane estimate is absolutely right on the money for our boat for the last 3 years of cruising. We get between 30-40 days on a 20lb propane bottle (stove and oven only).
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That's about 3x faster rate of usage than us based on our 2 years aboard.
Just checked our records and usually over 3mths for a 8.5kg (bit less than 20lb) bottle

We have 2250w of solar but would not consider all electric yet.
I dislike using the genset, rarely need to run it.

[CatNewBee]

... it works, solar + lfp only, no genny usage. cooking on 3..4 burners, baking bread is even less power consuming. 3 weeks off the grid sailing, no problem. Even using A/C, what is even worse than the galley, 3 fridges/freezer too. 1600Wp solar for re-charging during the day. Lagoon 400S2 cat.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

... it works, solar + lfp only, no genny usage. cooking on 3..4 burners, baking bread is even less power consuming. 3 weeks off the grid sailing, no problem. Even using A/C, what is even worse than the galley, 3 fridges/freezer too. 1600Wp solar for re-charging during the day.Attachment 175832 Lagoon 400S2 cat.

Anything can work if you throw enough money at it

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

Anything can work if you throw enough money at it

Of course. You have to do it right. It is not more expensive than a shiny new kittchen in your brick house so. Project costs for the conversion was 15k€ for all stuff, and then its free energy for a decade.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by mikedefieslife

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That brings me to another thing. Marine/RV ovens seem to lack insulation and good sealing compared to domestic units, at least the Smev ones that I've come across. Better insulation will again improve energy efficiency.

Indeed. I've never used a marine oven that worked in any way which would be considered acceptable on land.


My large size 4 burner SMEV stove works pretty well as a stove -- but the burners are too close together and too close to the edges to use normal pans in any normal way And the oven is fairly poor.


Electric ovens rule. On land I always cooked with gas cooktops and electric ovens. I would like to have a very well insulated oven, with grill and convection built in, like what I used to use on land. Which can get up to and hold normal temperatures.



And after that I will gladly sacrifice the slight advantage in responsiveness of a gas cooktop, over induction, in order to get the fuel-air bomb off the boat altogether and forget about ever looking for an LPG refill again, or replacing a regulator, or replacing the nth burned out solenoid, or dealing with the latest gas alarm fault, or resealing the gas locker for the nth time, or scolding a crewman for leaving the gas switched on after using the hob, or or or or or or or




Do you know what a fuel-air bomb is?






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by ZULU40

Thats the thing, efficiencies vary quite a lot. Ive yet to see how long it takes to boil a liter (ok a pint) of water on an induction plate but thats the way to make comparisons.

Here is a good test

https://youtu.be/COUBe18_f0s

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Jammer

10 years ago there was really no practical possibility of running a galley solely on electric power on a smaller sailboat.


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Depends on how small the small boat is.


I can't see it done in our 26' boat, not now, not tomorrow.


Our friends in a 53' Jeanneau circumnavigated with their ceramic plate galley already back in 2005-6.


Cheers,
b.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

We have 2250w of solar but would not consider all electric yet.
I dislike using the genset, rarely need to run it.

Why do you dislike using your genset? Noise?....

For me, it is the most versatile charging system on board and should be exercised regularly to keep functional.


At anchor profile:
Run our 12kw Gen in the morning for one hour
to bulk up House Bank so Solar can then top up, same time make water, freeze plates, cook up meals on induction, rice cooker and heat water.

That's 1-2 liters of diesel ($2) and is dependable regardless of Sun or Wind.

Diesel Generators are your friend and if installed properly can be silent inside and out.

[Pelagic]

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

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Do you know what a fuel-air bomb is?

All gotta die from something.
I carry as much as 300 litres of petrol and 7000 litres of diesel onboard as well.

All that water around us plus electricity could give interesting results as well