Induction vs Gas Cooking

[Van Der Beek]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

And the risk of burning yourself. With induction everything is cool except the bottom of the pan you are cooking with. A significant plus when cooking at sea.

That risk is always there with gas cooking, cooling spray and burn gel is a must-have in the galley.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

That risk is always there with gas cooking, cooling spray and burn gel is a must-have in the galley.

Indeed. I think the biggest risk is spills of boiling liquid, and this risk will not be reduced with induction. But all other burn risks definitely are, as well as the risk of a fire started by something getting into the flame in a seaway -- something which has happened to me, and which is pretty scary.

[zboss]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Thanks Nick.
Just ordered a new Victron Multiplus
24/5000/120 to add to the existing 24/3000/70 and looking at ways to wire it so that I select either or both.

Will start a new thread on that so as not to derail this one

Isn't the point of the Victron that they will work together on the optimum charging profile? That when you connect them all together in a VE.Net that each charging source communicates with all the other charging sources in the network?

[Van Der Beek]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Indeed. I think the biggest risk is spills of boiling liquid, and this risk will not be reduced with induction. But all other burn risks definitely are, as well as the risk of a fire started by something getting into the flame in a seaway -- something which has happened to me, and which is pretty scary.

Boiling liquids are always a bit of an issue, haven't had any fires going sounds unpleasant, last thing any skipper wants is a fire on board.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Indeed. I think the biggest risk is spills of boiling liquid, and this risk will not be reduced with induction.

Solids and semi-solids that stick to you are worse. All are of course bad. Boiling water at 212F/100C is bad. Lasagna at 350F/180C that sticks to you is worse. Even a solid at 212F/100C that sticks to you is worse than boiling liquids.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by zboss

Isn't the point of the Victron that they will work together on the optimum charging profile? That when you connect them all together in a VE.Net that each charging source communicates with all the other charging sources in the network?

That is Victron’s marketing side of the story. In real life, when two chargers are turned on to the same battery, both will charge full on during the bulk phase. During absorption, as current tapers off, one charger may be doing a bit more output than the other but that is irrelevant to the operation.

For Victron’s parallel operation, both units must be exactly the same, not just the model but also hardware revision and firmware version. When one fails, often both must be replaced. Crazy.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Indeed. I think the biggest risk is spills of boiling liquid, and this risk will not be reduced with induction. But all other burn risks definitely are, as well as the risk of a fire started by something getting into the flame in a seaway -- something which has happened to me, and which is pretty scary.

Cooking pancakes on an induction hob, just wearing a pair of shorts.
Flipped a pancake a bit hard and hit myself in the stomach with the edge of the pan.
That made for a nasty burn!

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by olaf hart

Just to add some perspective here, it took the Irish hunger strikers over 60 days to die with no food...

The thing that matters is clean fresh water...

The ability to do useful work would not last 60d of starvation, though it would be significantly longer than the time to die of dehydration.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Adelie

The ability to do useful work would not last 60d of starvation, though it would be significantly longer than the time to die of dehydration.

True, and plenty of time to learn fishing.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

True, and plenty of time to learn fishing.

"Well we just won't eat" doesn't strike me as a good back-up plan for losing the ability to cook. As to fishing, just how much sashimi and ceviche can you eat? There is also success rate. I dragged a green machine from Falmouth to Norfolk and caught nothing. I am the poster boy for why the activity is called "fishing" and not "catching."

On point for the thread I found this interesting: https://blog.yaleappliance.com/bid/9...eviews-ratings

[Mag3]

I'm having a new Amel 50 built and as part of that i was able to convince Amel to install a brand new (just announced and not on their site yet!) oceanchef induction stove. With 800 amp hours of 24v lithium and 1300 watts of solar (and a gen set) my hope is that i'll not need to ever get, keep, and burn gas.

greater safety, less ambient heat generation, etc. etc.

anyway... i wanted to share the details re. the ocean chef product as it's the nicest induction stove/oven i've seen. It's expensive (it's ocean chef), but they make a fabulous cooking system... I've attached their preliminary spec sheet that they sent me a month ago.

Cheers,
-Justin

[rslifkin]

That looks like a nice unit. Is it 120v or 240v?

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by Mag3

I'm having a new Amel 50 built and as part of that i was able to convince Amel to install a brand new (just announced and not on their site yet!) oceanchef induction stove. With 800 amp hours of 24v lithium and 1300 watts of solar (and a gen set) my hope is that i'll not need to ever get, keep, and burn gas.

greater safety, less ambient heat generation, etc. etc.

anyway... i wanted to share the details re. the ocean chef product as it's the nicest induction stove/oven i've seen. It's expensive (it's ocean chef), but they make a fabulous cooking system... I've attached their preliminary spec sheet that they sent me a month ago.

Cheers,
-Justin

Where do you put 1300 watts of solar on a 50 ft mono? You must have a huge array on the arch?

[Adelie]

Arch and Bimini/dodger.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Adelie

Arch and Bimini/dodger.

So any hope of actually seeing the sails is gone.