Induction vs Gas Cooking

[Adelie]

Not my boat.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Adelie

Not my boat.

That doesn't make it a good idea.

[B23iL23]

That really depends on the boat. In this case it's an Amel 50 with 3 solar above the davits and then additional panels on the hardtop (500+watts?) - doesn't restrict visibility to the sail at all.

Originally Posted by Auspicious

That doesn't make it a good idea.

[rslifkin]

With modern tech and all that power available, if sail visibility is a big concern, a well placed camera could solve that. If it's a night vision camera, it might even be an upgrade when sailing overnight.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by Auspicious

That doesn't make it a good idea.

Not espousing the it, just pointing out the obvious answer to Wingsail.

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by Adelie

Not espousing the it, just pointing out the obvious answer to Wingsail.

My question was more of a remark then a sincere query (although a little of both, I guess) because that is where you'd have to put the panels: aloft and aft, horizontally.

At 15 watts per square foot, that 1300 watts rounds out to 87 square feet or over 8 square meters. That is a huge area on a mono to my way of thinking, 8 feet wide by 10 feet long. Additionally it is roughly 400lbs of panel weight, not counting the metal structure strong enough to hold it up and in place in a wind storm or being tossed in a seaway. A lot of weight and area aloft.

I also can't help but think that the 87 square feet, when heeled over in a gale of wind is going to have a lot of pressure under it trying to rip it away, to say nothing of adding drag and affecting the sailing capabilities.

So, while having this amount of solar power available is great for induction cooking and running air conditioning, I am pretty sure I wouldn't want it on my boat; it becomes a dominant characteristic and not a pretty one.

It could fit better on a catamaran I guess.

[B23iL23]

this is the layout (roughly).

You can get 3x330 on the stern and 500+ on the roof. The roof are flexible and low profile and invisible unless you are higher than the boat.

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by B23iL23

this is the layout (roughly).

You can get 3x330 on the stern and 500+ on the roof. The roof are flexible and low profile and invisible unless you are higher than the boat.

So that's the answer I was looking for, not a bad solution.

[Mag3]

575 on the hardtop dodger
~1000 on the davits..

[B23iL23]

Justin,
Do you have details on the Ocean chef install (Induction hob/oven) ?

thanks

Originally Posted by Mag3

575 on the hardtop dodger
~1000 on the davits..

[Mag3]

look earlier in the thread.. i attached the product PDF info sheet to the post where i mentioned it!

[B23iL23]

thank you. Got it.

Originally Posted by Mag3

look earlier in the thread.. i attached the product PDF info sheet to the post where i mentioned it!

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by wingssail

My question was more of a remark then a sincere query (although a little of both, I guess) because that is where you'd have to put the panels: aloft and aft, horizontally.

At 15 watts per square foot, that 1300 watts rounds out to 87 square feet or over 8 square meters. That is a huge area on a mono to my way of thinking, 8 feet wide by 10 feet long. Additionally it is roughly 400lbs of panel weight, not counting the metal structure strong enough to hold it up and in place in a wind storm or being tossed in a seaway. A lot of weight and area aloft.

I also can't help but think that the 87 square feet, when heeled over in a gale of wind is going to have a lot of pressure under it trying to rip it away, to say nothing of adding drag and affecting the sailing capabilities.

So, while having this amount of solar power available is great for induction cooking and running air conditioning, I am pretty sure I wouldn't want it on my boat; it becomes a dominant characteristic and not a pretty one.

It could fit better on a catamaran I guess.

All good points but whether you have a canvas Bimini or Solar Bimini, windage is the same.

In the Tropics, you need shade!

Weight is a consideration, but a lot depends on the displacement of a balasted monohull as to whether its an issue

I have over 1300w of solar incorporated into my Bimini comprising of 4 Sunpower 327w panels arranged longitudinally aft of the stays.

With a T-section fiberglass panel in between that has an acrylic sunroof panel aft, I am able to see the schooner rigged aft sail quite well when is am standing by the aft sheet.

Each panel weighs 18.6kg so 74kg + structure is pretty insignificant on a 42 ton displacement boat.

I also have an additional 365W panel over the tender davits giving me a total of 1673w Solar

For most liveaboard cruisers Form follows Function when deciding priorities

Being able to cook with cool, clean induction, make water and run a tiny inverter AirCon in our cabin at night all from a surplus of Solar is worth the compromise in performance.

Even in this rainy season we are back up to 100% SOC by 3pm after cooking our main meal at 12

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by Mag3

look earlier in the thread.. i attached the product PDF info sheet to the post where i mentioned it!

I read that earlier. Interesting I can’t find a price.
Do you know list price?

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by B23iL23

That really depends on the boat. In this case it's an Amel 50 with 3 solar above the davits and then additional panels on the hardtop (500+watts?) - doesn't restrict visibility to the sail at all.

Ah. You can’t see the mainsail well at all from any of the Amel’s I’ve delivered anyway.

Originally Posted by rslifkin

With modern tech and all that power available, if sail visibility is a big concern, a well placed camera could solve that. If it's a night vision camera, it might even be an upgrade when sailing overnight.

Just no. Not any better than the little plastic window in a bimini or the hatches in a hard dodger. You can’t look up and see the whole leech.

Originally Posted by B23iL23

this is the layout (roughly).

So you can’t see the main regardless.

Originally Posted by Pelagic

In the Tropics, you need shade!

When you’re sailing you need to see the sails. All of them.